Happy New Year

Someone posted that January 1st never feels like the beginning of a new year. I have to agree. Numerologicaly speaking each person’s new year doesn’t change until their own birthday. I’m not sure why anyone decided to make January 1st the start of a new calendar year. It seems that things seem newer in the spring and fall than the summer or winter. It has always felt arbitrary to me as well. But here we are again, starting a new year.

Sorry to be absent for about a week I was on vacation.

More to come this week…

Best wishes and Happy New Year!

Denise

Happy New Year

OK, Super Weirdness…

I just googled the title of my novel Americhrist and found that it is an actual church! And one that freakishly seems in keeping with the one in my book. My novel just gets creepier and creepier. It seems almost like I tapped into the future and just dictated back to myself from 30 years in the future. So much of it has already come to pass…

And a footnote in it is a 3rd WW which doesn’t kill everyone and isn’t really like the first two which I can see coming in all the nations charts I’ve looked at.

Getting chills yet? I am. I remember when I was writing the book the writer’s in my writing group were all saying, “Wow, Denise you have such an imagination,” and stuff like that. That was back in late 1999 early 2000 as I was writing it I was reading it. As time passed and I went through editing, and the Bush administration went forward with their agenda they all confided in me at different times that they thought often about the book and how bizarrely accurate the forecast was looking and becoming.

You can click on the page Americhrist if you want to read it. The book is posted here. Here’s a link to the freaky church with the actual name. It seems they are being sued for defimation which would make sense if they are anything like the weirdos in my book and I’d have to think they would be… knowing me.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/tos.html
And a link to the explanation of AmeriChrist Ltd. which seems to be in keeping with the twisted “Christian Values” in my book:
http://objectiveministries.org/shutdown/

Seriously if everyone read the novel I think it would scare most of the population into doing something about global warming and the twisting of Christianity found in churches exemplified by the AmeriChrist of my book.

Best wishes and happy holidays,

Denise

Here’s a link to my book to make it all that much easier:
https://astrologyandpsychicpredictions.wordpress.com/americhrist/

As a side note there seems to be some part of my brain that taps into very specific information when I’m writing. Perhaps it’s like automatic writing or something. Every story I’ve ever written (fiction) within months I’ve met people with that story or with the names of the main characters or it has become a headline story much later. I guess the psychic in me can’t get out of the way no matter what I do.

OK, Super Weirdness…

Iran…

Uranus is at 4 degrees Cap in modern Iran’s first house, opposite Jupiter and Neptune, inconjunction the natal Moon in Gemini, square the Sun in Libra and making a sextile to Saturn in Pisces in the 2nd house.

What the hell does all of this mean, Denise? All the obnoxious astro jargon, let’s get on with the analysis.

When transiting Pluto hits natal Uranus in a person’s chart it’s like a mini-nuclear bomb goes off in their life. They have a tendency to blow everything up, much to their later chagrin. This is when you find stories of husbands leaving the love of their life for their overweight alcoholic secretary because she tells him how nice he looks everyday so she can get a promotion. She wants to sleep her way to a better paying job (men do this, too and it does happen unfortunately on both counts) and he wants someone to make him feel special. When she gets the better job and he’s filed for divorce and now the other woman has dumped him for her long time love, he’s lost, regretful and has completely destroyed his former life.

When a person is more evolved he/she sees the freight train coming before hand and jumps off the tracks. Unfortunately, those that possess the foresight to do so are extremely rare. We are by nature an extremely myopic race, most often only able to see what is directly in front of us. So Uranus hitting Pluto is a game changer, an explosive one at that. Think even of the roots of the two elements used for nuclear energy and or bombs, uranium and plutonium. Really, this is not a coincidence. As a matter of fact Pluto was found around  the development, production and dropping of the atomic bomb. These energies are big, universal and explosive and Iran being as unstable as it is one can only speculate that there is to be major instability, war or civil unrest brought on by this conjunction.

In the 1960s just the transiting conjunction of Uranus and Pluto was enough to cause the sexual revolution, war and the vehement anti-war movement, civil unrest and the health food movement (the transit planets were both in Virgo) and also the decline in wages leading to the death of the American dream. It  also coincided with a huge drop in the population (due to the advent of the pill and other things). Those who are commonly referred to Gen-X’ers are the smallest in number around the world. My definition of Gen-X is astrological and goes from about 1956/57 until 1969/1979. These people have in common Neptune in Scorpio (thus the obsession with the occult, often unusual sexual proclivities and all things hidden, secret or occult) and Pluto in Virgo which brings with it a desire to be of service, interest in health and healthy living, alternative medicine, natural foods, and unfortunately also brought us lower wages on the whole and perpetual financial problems. Many of us have had to change careers many times over (Virgo is a mutable sign ruled by Mercury) which has made it imperative to change in order to survive.

The super ultra extra generation X-ers are t hose born with Uranus in Virgo conjunct Pluto in Virgo. That configuration started around 1962 and ended around 1968. These people are rebellious by nature, challenging, bright and often visionary but they can often take awhile to find their true path and often feel lost or overwhelmed. They are often late bloomers.

But back to Iran. Transiting Pluto will be conjunct the natal Uranus (in the first  house) starting next year. This will mean there will be radical changes in the way the country sees itself. Most likely there will be a two-fold situation going on, the young and the liberal people will desire an end to their current government and the conservative rule it represents (Capricorn.) And the government itself will feel overly confident about its power in the world and feel it has the world by the balls (so to speak) it therefore could act out irrationally and push boundaries which will probably be triggered by the sanctions put on the country (again in Capricorn – money, career, lively hood, etc.)

My best guess is an uprising from the young people there to overthrow the government and for the government to act out globally therefore crushing the uprising inside the country as the irrational acts of the government will endanger the lives of all those within Iran’s boarders. Again this is very likely a war aspect, being in the first house I would say that it will probably start from within and work its way out. The best case scenario would be a change in the government, a restructuring based on what the people want there and an ousting of their present configuration which is very possible. Let’s hope the struggle stays internal and they just give themselves a face lift or rather a brain transplant. We shall see as we have the power to change our future and the people of Iran still have the power to steer their country toward a brighter future for themselves rather than an international entanglement.

Best wishes and happy holidays,

Denise

Iran…

E-Mail and Me…

If anyone has e-mailed me in the last 6 weeks I’m very sorry. Checking it on my part has been patchy to say the least. I’m still recovering and blogging is about the most I’m up to until the holidays are over. Afterward I’ll probably do some sort of discount for people wanting to look into their upcoming year. If anyone has tried to contact me for a reading please accept my apologies. Believe me I wouldn’t be much help to you at this point as I’m still getting better, and now my child is sick and gotten me sick with a cold. I usually have lots of health problems this time of year (as does everyone) despite how hard I’ve tried to be a hermit I’ve still managed to get sick! I guess it’s all that Pisces in my chart squaring the transiting Sun in Sagittarius that does it.

Again, sorry for the delay. Also I’ve been bad about reading the comments on the site because I’m trying to rest and just post when I have a burst of energy. I’ve used the scheduling feature recently so I can keep things coming which is why I haven’t been responding if anyone has posted questions. After the new year I’ll go back to the traditional format of answering universal questions on the blog.

Thanks to all of you out there who have been avid readers and supporters. Wishing you a Happy Everything!

May this coming year bring all of your fondest wishes to fruition,

Denise

E-Mail and Me…

Gen-X as a Uranus/Pluto Metaphor…

Thomas Paine was quoted as saying, “People are more like their generation than they are like their family.” He would say that being an Aquarian. Astrologers have often undermined the importance of the outer planets in astrology but I have found them to be amazingly important in the psychology, physiology and general fate of those born under the influences of generational planets. I’ve even seen physical traits that seem to defy logic among generations. There is a certain look to those with Pluto in Leo, Neptune in Libra (the Boomers) and to those who came before them. And certainly every subsequent generation. It’s not just the way they dress, it’s the way they carry themselves and even their features seem often to reflect a subtle hint of the outer planets influence.

In the 1960s just the transiting conjunction of Uranus and Pluto was enough to cause the sexual revolution, war and the vehement anti-war movement, civil unrest and the health food movement (the transit planets were both in Virgo) and also the decline in wages leading to the death of the American dream. It  also coincided with a huge drop in the population (due to the advent of the pill and other things). Those who are commonly referred to Gen-X’ers are the smallest in number around the world.

My definition of Gen-X is astrological and goes from about 1956/57 until 1969/1970. These people have in common Neptune in Scorpio (thus the obsession with the occult, often unusual sexual proclivities and all things hidden, secret or occult) and Pluto in Virgo which brings with it a desire to be of service, interest in health, healthy living, alternative medicine, natural foods, and unfortunately also brought us lower wages on the whole, and perpetual financial problems. Many of us have had to change careers many times over (Virgo is a mutable sign ruled by Mercury) which has made it imperative to change in order to survive.

The super ultra extra generation X-ers are those born with Uranus in Virgo conjunct Pluto in Virgo. That configuration started around 1962 and ended around 1968. These people are rebellious by nature, challenging, bright and often visionary. Kurt Cobain was born 2 weeks after me the same year, we shared a grand water trine, Uranus and Pluto conjunction in Virgo making a kite off of it. He however was not as lucky as I. He had far too many planets in water. My husband reminded me that I once looked at his chart and said it looked like he was an elemental. And indeed the poor guy had no fire (like me) but was deluged by water. He had twice the water I do and no air to distance himself from his emotions. Anyone who had that chart would eventually kill themselves, he was just too sensitive and too emotional. Life was pain for him. Many of the most innovative musical artists (popular in the 1990s) had this configuration as this configuration often shakes up things. And for sure this group shook the music industry to its core, it still hasn’t recovered but that’s another story… if only they would have embraced the Pluto energy, the change and the Uranian innovation they would have figured out what Itunes did and they would be flourishing like never before but instead they resisted, trying to be conservative and killed what people loved about the art and destroyed their own business in the process by resisting new technology. Often people with Uranus/Pluto conjunct will enter into a situation right before it’s about to implode or explode and become a catalyst for this change. And of course the more the person resonates the energy of that configuration the greater their effect is on those around them.

Obama is on the outskirts of the Gen-X’er generation. He doesn’t have the radical idealism embodied by those born between 1962 and 1969. He has the practical idealism of Pluto in Virgo. He believes he can work things out rationally. However he fails to see that while one would hope the world capable of rational thought and measured intelligence, as George Bush showed us, this is not always in the genes or the generation. Pluto in Leo people (who make up the vast majority of politicians) are very emotional almost vitriolic and/or zealot-like about their ideology, of course until it changes and then they intensely defend their new world view with the same passion often using their old life as an example of why their new life is so right on. I could name a thousand celebrity examples of this, but the first one that pops to mind is “Dr.” Laura Schelssinger (she’s not actually psychologist as many assume she actually has a degree in physiology which would make her qualified to be a coach, PE professor/teacher or give her good background to be a physical therapist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Schlessinger .) All that aside, she rails on about the evils of divorce, oh yeah, she’s is a divorcee’, about the evils of adulterous affairs, that too she is supposedly guilty of and a host of other things which she vehemently chastises her callers for admitting without ever showing her own vulnerability. This quality in various forms can be seen in the Pluto in Leo generation often to good effect. They can throw themselves into things and truly effect change like nobodies business because they believe so strongly in their ideas and the Leo pride and arrogance allows them to do so without question. However the Achilles heel (for those who live in the shadow side like Dr. Laura) is intense, disgusting and ridiculous hypocrisy like George W. spending his life as the poster boy for cocaine and the party lifestyle and then doing a 180 a few years before he decides he wants to get into politics. Very convenient for him to have found God.

Well, enough ragging on the negative sides of that generation. There are a lot of people, the vast majority of the population that fall under this configuration, and for sure there are many great people and many who have used the bravery and sureness of Pluto in Leo to do amazing things. It’s just those few wankers who ruin it. But of course there are always wankers in every generation.

The Generation Y’ers are still coming into their own. Unfortunately, the Neptune in Sagittarius and Pluto in Libra combination is a hard one for personal (marriage type) relationships. Neptune in Sag wants to explore, go crazy, party, see the world, drink and generally over indulge and Pluto (which as I’ve stated is powerful transformative energy) wants to destroy, and the sign it’s in, Libra makes the aim partnerships, marriage, legal matters, injustice. On the good side of this, this generation has many strong activists for social change, those who are committed to changing the laws to make life equal for all (both Sag and Libra have legal implications.) On the negative side there is the Paris Hilton’s of this generation, who exemplifies the shadow side of this group of people.

The dark side of Gen-X is the extreme desire to be individual and the almost pathological need to be considered unique so much so that one is hard pressed to get someone in that generation to admit being part of a generation, which of course is absurd. I think many out grew this as they got older and reluctantly, and with much resentment, realized they were actually part of a group that could be “marketed to.” Other problems that I’ve seen among my peers are a feeling of hopelessness + powerlessness = apathy which is partially due to so much Virgo in Gen-X charts. Virgos have a tendency to feel small and of little value. We are the first generation to grow up mostly in single parent households (due to 50% divorce rates among our parents generation), having to adapt to radical changes in the roles of women and men. And the first generation to do worse than our parents generation did. We have often felt like outcasts and freaks, partially due to the inner turmoil between our conservative nature (we can be weirdly prudish and old-fashioned the Uranus/Pluto in Virgo) in opposition to the desire to wreak havoc (hence the Punk rock or Alternative music revolution embraced and continued by Pluto in Virgo). We want to shake things up and alternatively go forward at the same time, actually the music, literature and aesthetics of Steampunk pretty much sum up the conflicting weirdness of Gen-X people.

I focus a lot on Gen-X because not many astrologers have since we are a minor group, and difficult to understand from the outside in. We are the invisible children of the Me generation, the shadowed group that never really got a foothold as the Boomers extended their time in the work place, the group of kids left to raise themselves, fend for themselves in the face of declining jobs (since 1967) and many of us came into the career market as the first George Bush recession hit in the early 90s. Believe me I don’t think we have it the worst. We were and are a hallmark generation, the first truly modern generation bridging the gap between an America that protected its citizens from greedy corporations and stood on the side of labor, and equality and the wealthy pluto/corporatocracy we have now. We were just the first generation of people to go backwards – the beginning of the empire’s unraveling, back toward the standards of people who we were taught as children only existed in developing nations. By this I mean a health care system ranked 37th in the world below many developing nations. We are one step closer to indentured servitude and slavery each year as jobs continue to go overseas where labor is virtually free and we learn to live on the sort of money that seemed impossible 20 years ago to the Pluto in Leo generation. I know many people in their late 30s to mid 40s who are living off of about $600 a month in impossible places like the Bay Area. They live in abject poverty and can only pray they don’t get sick since they can’t afford care and apply to every job remotely related to anything they’ve done to no avail.

Let’s face it this is not a recession. It’s a depression. According to the most recent statistics 1 in 5 people is unemployed. That is 20% of the population, it was 25% during the Great Depression. Health care reform is not only imperative (and a moral obligation)  but so is throwing lobbyists out of Washington and actually  holding corporations to the same laws that we as human beings have to abide by.

Best wishes and happy holidays,

Denise

Gen-X as a Uranus/Pluto Metaphor…

United Kingdom…

Oye Vey! More of the same! With so many planets on the angles and cardinal transiting Pluto has already started doing a number on them and will continue as it squares the part of fortune and the nodes, conjuncts the natal Sun in the 4th house and eventually opposes the natal moon in the 10th. This could leave the UK open to attacks on their soil, violent and potentially nuclear starting as early as 2011 and not ending until 2019. Off and on the UK will be in serious danger of violence targeted at them. As we get closer I will hone in on the warnings but the government of the UK should be aware that there are probably already plans being laid to do major damage in London or other major cities. Of course nothing is for sure and if they are diligent and relentless in their pursuit of terrorism and careful to stay out of major world conflicts they can mollify this, even avert serious disaster. I say t his because there are some positive aspects like a trine to Mars in the 8th which could mean that through listening to their people deep undercover they have a good chance to stop a terrorist attack that would make 9-11 seem like a boat accident.

In the next few years we will be seeing major changes, serious conflicts and intense radical transformation. At best it could bring about saving the world from global warming and cause some financial problems for the world as we adapt to a new system of living. At worst it could mean annihilation of a great number of people, major war, famine, ecological disaster and death on a massive scale. Let’s choose the first course rather than the second. We still have the power to steer this ship in the right direction. I believe my dream of Israel was a warning of an impending 3rd WW if we keep on this course, but we always have the power to change our direction. This is a call to action. Get involved in global warming, in fair trade issues, in treating all with equality. Let’s go into the Aquarian age willingly rather than being forced through massive extinction.

Many blessings,

Denise

United Kingdom…

Russia

OK, it’s getting weird. The stars seem to be aligning among all the countries I’ve looked at in a major way, we are talking intense radical changes. Pluto will be hitting Russia’s Uranus in the 2nd house around 2013 but before it does Saturn will be conjuncting Russia’s natal Moon in the 10th again changing the way they do business and hitting them hard in the pocket-book. They too will change laws regarding how they do business which will eventually negatively impact world markets (not immediately but several years down the road). This will happen in the next couple of years. It seems that the end of the “recession” oops did I say recession I meant mild depression, isn’t over. It will be hitting China and Russia in a harder way this coming year. And they will do some radical things to change how they work and do business as transiting Saturn will be squaring Russia’s Capricorn stellium in the 2nd house of work, money and stuff. This could destabilize them and lead them into a foreign war as Pluto and firstly Saturn inconjuct Mercury and then Jupiter in the 9th. The conflict will not be on their soil but overseas. Again, all signs seem to be pointing to a global crisis and/or war starting in the next few years.

Best wishes,

Denise

Russia

Amanda Knox

A reader posted the question:

I know this is completely off topic but do you get any feelings on the Amanda Knox trail? I just feel that she didn’t kill her roommate and the Italian government railroaded her. They didn’t even have evidence of DNA? Curious to what everyone thinks…

Amanda Knox is guilty of one thing — naiveté.  She should have left Italy when she had the chance. She believed she could get a fair trial, that was a witch trial. The prosecutor was known for being seriously insane, basically accusing people of things like devil worship, etc. It’s a good story that the people and the press became attached to, a great hollywood style script that is absurd as one of those bad horror films. I do not feel she was guilty of having anything to do with her room mates murder. She may have been guilty of being a naive college girl who was experimenting with love, sexuality and the belief that truth always prevails (which is actually very rarely the case in the heat of a frenzied moment like the one she was caught up in.) But none of this has anything to do with her murdering her room-mate. The whole thing feels more than absurd. I believe it was trumped up by the psycho prosecutor to make an international name for himself.

On a side note I’ve been to Italy and had stuff stolen along with the entire group of people I was with. The people in charge literally  had to bribe the police to take a report (which we had to have to get the insurance money.) The police carry automatic weapons on their backs… let’s just say it’s different from here. Perhaps Amanda didn’t take that into account when everyone told her to flee the country. I think she thought she would get a fair trial and stay with her boyfriend in a country she more than likely had fond memories of other than the horror of what happened to her room mate.

All that being said the people are amazing, the food the best in the world and the police I met were very helpful and kind. It’s just the government has some issues… naked young ladies anyone?

Best wishes,

Denise

There’s an interesting comment listed down below detailing the case against Amanda Knox. There is compelling evidence to suggest she did it. It’s hard to read all things involved and often why if I’m not personally involved, I don’t comment on public cases unless I have gotten a strong hit. In this case I have gotten mixed messages from the beginning and it’s possible that I could have picked up on the ruling rather than the truth of whether she did it or not. In which case she most likely will not be convicted even if she did do it. I do think she was naive about her situation and got a strong sense of her disconnection from the whole thing, perhaps this is because she’s a sociopath? I can’t say that I have a direct line here. I’d need a piece of clothing or something to get through all the projections of other people getting in the way of my ability to read her.

And to address one of the other people who posted about what most psychics were saying in regards to this case, most garden variety psychics go with with whatever theory the police have. Most psychics also thought that Jon Benette Ramsey was murdered by her parents and that the economy was just fine, too. I’ve worked with thousands of “psychics” and frankly the people who read this blog are more in touch with the divine and are more psychic than those who boast of being psychic. There are only a handful of professional psychics who are truly psychic and among those who are famous there are some excellent ones and some scammers, too. Claiming psychic ability really means nothing. A lot of crazy people think they are Jesus, call themselves psychic, and whatever, but the proof is in a person’s record. No psychic is always correct, but if they are right most of the time that’s proof enough that they are tapped into something.

Amanda Knox

China

At the end of November 2010 transiting Pluto will oppose China’s natal Uranus this in a person’s chart is the aspect that makes people do radical things, reckless things. When it’s a Uranus opposing Uranus (a more benign form of this aspect) it is commonly referred to as the mid-life crisis. In this case transiting Pluto will also make an applying grand cross in China’s chart. After the coming year of Saturn conjucting China’s Sun in the 10th, then Mercury, Neptune and the South Node, China will have felt very put upon, restricted, and will have reorganized the way they do business in the world community, changing their dynamics and potentially upsetting their growing economy. This economic slow down has already started for them, but will continue for the next couple of years. It could potentially cause serious joblessness and the end of partnerships with those outside their country. It could and probably will lead to unrest among their population as the opposition will eventually sit on the south node in the 10th and oppose the North Node in the 4th and the part of fortune in the 4th. Again this indicates agitation, perhaps even a military coup coming from the people or some sort of outbreak of rebels willing to fight, perhaps even some sort of civil war on a small-scale.

So one Pluto gets the ball rolling from the first house and escalate slowly starting to reach a fevered pitch at the end of December 2011 and going on from there. This transformation which will potentially include getting involved in war, won’t be complete until the end of 2020. When the transit is complete China will be a radically different place. The good thing that will come out of this is they will have better working conditions and restructure how they do business with the outside world and among themselves. There will be laws put in place to regulate the work force and business which will be hard-won by the people there, much like the west went through at the turn of the last century.

OK next Russia and then the US…

Best wishes,

Denise

China

Israel

OK, I had the creepy dream about Israel just before I had a bunch of health stuff come up. In the mean time I described the mortar I saw in my dream to a reporter friend of mine and she told me that it was exactly as I described it. Basically, it looks like a giant bullet. That just got me wondering what the hell is up with Israel’s chart?

Why did I dream it would be the center of a war that would lead to a world wide conflict. Well, I figured astrology would help me figure it out and yeah, I looked at Israel’s chart and the transits about to hit and it didn’t look good.

Mars will be going over Israel’s stellium in the 10th house this year, transiting Pluto is making an applying opposition to Venus from the 3rd to the 9th and an applying inconjunction to the natal Moon in the 10th. Uranus started the trouble as it has been going back and forth over a sensitive square to Israel’s natal Uranus in the 9th from the 5th house. There was a risk taken that will be the trigger of dominos that will set off this chain. When I looked back at the first pass it was in April of 2009, here’s a link to describe the seed of the unfolding:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04bisharat.html

It seems that my initial freak out over Israel going into the Gaza strip way back when, in a post from last year, was on the money. Read the article. It appears there were major violations of international law which started to make its way out into the world last April. The article illustrates the situation well. Of course in my case it was just a bad gut feeling and a sense that a small faction of militant right leaning nut jobbers were steering Israel in the very wrong direction. A lot of people got mad at me, even called me anti-semitic because I spoke out against this however I am of Jewish descent (I do not participate in any organized religion however.) Contrary to the notion that I am anti-Israel I am actually pro-Israel. I want Israel to succeed and thrive and the only way it can is if it gets along with its neighbors and tries to resolve the conflict with the Palestinians. There are many Jewish people who want peace just as there are many Americans who want peace and want our troops to come home. Enough about that…

According to the chart transits leave me to believe that things will progressively become more difficult, more polarized and those who can see the writing on the wall will migrate out of the country. There will more than likely be an exodus and the involvement of an international tribunal or group that will oversee the conflict which may start as peaceful, more along the lines of international law and lead to international troops escalating to the point that the world will divide among two camps and a world war fought on middle eastern soil. I have a feeling the conflict will not stay in Israel.  The great malefic Saturn will also be transiting Israel’s 12th house over the next couple of years and will eventually hit the natal Neptune which will trine Natal Mercury and sextile natal Pluto lessening the intense loss and restriction put upon Israel. It’s fair to say that Israel will have very powerful allies that will come to its aid in this upcoming period of instability. As good as this is for Israel it could be bad for the world. It could lead to conflicts between much bigger nations on Israel’s behalf which is where the WW more than likely will be triggered. I’m going to look into the other nations I feel will be involved in the conflict later on and report on that next.

I have the feeling that what will start out as a seemingly benign investigation by the international community will take a volatile turn and incite old animosities which will lead to a much bigger world war. This won’t happen over night, but over a period of years as the planets march along and set off a series of bad aspects in Israel’s chart.

Next I’ll look into the major power players charts and see how they interact with this situation.

Best wishes,

Denise

Israel