The Stock Market: Answering a Reader’s Question

This question from George is a good one. It is at the bottom of this post for reference.

I have to admit that the feeling I had before the initial crash was intense and urgent. Since then it has been erratic. I picked the end of December into January because this is when Pluto is exactly conjunct the Dow Jones first house. Of course if the date or time was off in that chart (which is always possible) then we could have seen the hit at 0 degree instead of the 1 degree in the official chart. 

The other manifestation of Pluto going over the first house is the exposure of corruption, scandals, abuse of power and scams that could hamper investment in the market out of fear. We’ve started seeing this with the most recent news of the ex-head of NASDAQ taking rich investors for an estimated 50 billion dollars. Pluto will uncover more of this sort of thing, it may or may not lead to another crash, but it will definitely transform the way the markets are ultimately allowed to do business.

In the next 10-15 years the  market will go through such major transformations economists/brokers/bankers and financial people won’t recognize it as the same entity it once was. I think we will see instability for a long time as the market re-organizes, and gets restructured under Pluto’s influence. Which means during this long period we may see wild fluctuations as new things become uncovered, and new laws are put in place to shore up the bleeding. 

It’s my feeling that we are still in the midst of this crisis, and haven’t seen the worst of it, but it will turn around over the next couple of years. In terms of the bottoming out, if I were looking just at the aspects I’d have to say as an astrologer that the worst still will be the end of December into January when Pluto hits that 1 degree mark. And again when Pluto retrogrades back to that point at different points in 2009. However, as a psychic, I also know that charts are not always 100 accurate, so timing isn’t always exact because of this, and the intense urgency about the market I felt back in September has abated. I’m not sure if this is because we’re already in it, and I’ve gotten used to the energy, or if we really have seen the biggest drop we’re going to feel by comparison of where it was to begin with.

I do feel however, that we haven’t seen the end of companies going under, and the market dropping and being very erratic which is why for those of us who are not incredibly market savvy, it is still best to wait it out. I’d give it at least a couple of years to stabilize.

It’s been my intuition for a number of years now that there is a lot of criminal activity taking place in the stock market and I feel the uncovering of this is part of Pluto going over the first house of the Dow. I mentioned this in earlier posts. I feel we are entering into this phase of Pluto now where a lot of dirty tricks, insider trading, corruption and scams are exposed. Pluto is going to clean house, and while this is good in the long run, it will disrupt people’s faith in the market, and bring down value substantially. 

So to summarize: We are still in the middle of the bleeding. Criminal activity regarding the market will continue to come to light. The market will undergo tremendous change over the next decade. It won’t really be “safe” for normal people to invest in the market for a few years when it begins to stabilize again. More companies are going to go under. The overall value of the market is going to go down. We are headed into a different sort of depression then the 30s, but still it will be a depression. There will be international market, and banking laws put into place over the next decade, and the world will become even more intricately connected as one economy, with one set of rules we all have to abide by. After a few years of changes people will get used to the Pluto energy, and begin to understand the new flow of the market, and it will turn around for the better, and start to build more value again.

This new depression will be somewhere between the recession we felt of the 70s, and the 30s, but on a global scale. It won’t be barrels full of money to buy bread, but there will be tremendous unemployment and people having to change their lifestyles dramatically in some cases to get through this time. I also feel that the length and severity of this depression/recession has been greatly reduced by the election of Obama. His chart compared to that of the US constitution signing, and the Dow, and NASDAQ are good. Most of his energy regarding the markets will be spent in re-structuring them for the future good of the world’s economy. 

I hope I’ve made sense and this is helpful. If you want anymore clarification just let me know. 

Here is George’s question:

George

Hi Denise,   Do you still think that US stock markets will crash during December and January? It is interesting if you see anything new. Can you please share with us. Thanks, George

Barack Obama vs. Abraham Lincoln

Their career paths have been compared, and almost parallel in their meteoric rise from being state legislators to Presidents (in Obama’s case potential president). But what do their charts say. Are they similar? And if so how? Let’s take a look at the man who helped start the Republican party and the current lead Democrat.

 

 Despite the unknown time of Lincoln’s actual birth we can still compare the basics so here goes:

Although Lincoln was an Aquarian he had a lot of water in his chart, specifically Pisces which gave him great compassion for the down trodden. Pisces is opposite of Virgo and the two have a lot in common, as Leo is opposite of Aquarius. Again both signs share similarities, this is because if you have the sun in Leo like Barack Obama your earth is in Aquarius, meaning the earth is actually traveling through the constellation of Aquarius. So in a sense opposites are not really opposites in astrology but rather two sides of a see-saw.

WIth so his sun and moon in Aquarius Lincoln definitely thought outside the box and was ruled by his principles but unlike Sarah Palin who is utterly lacking in compassionate or sensitivity in her chart, Lincoln had oodles of it. He was a visionary, literally and extremely intuitive, eccentric, odd looking as we know and a revolutionary for the greater good. His chart is heavy on trines like Barack’s making it easy to communicate, rise to the head of the class and understand others on a very gut level, very similar to Barack Obama’s abilities. Barack shows great aptitude for communication and shows intellectual brilliance in his chart, Lincoln shows immense genius with Uranus making a trine to his mercury both in water signs he was probably spooky (if you knew him personally) in his ability to read things others couldn’t see and size up situations in a glance. His chart is the stuff of legends. He also had Mars in Libra trining his sun, making fairness a huge issue for him much like Obama. The civil war probably pained Lincoln greatly on a personal level as he wasn’t a hawk but would have preferred to work things out through debate, alas this was not his fate. Saturn and Neptune conjunct in Sagittarius gave him charisma and uncannily good luck in his career. But it also gave him trouble as evidenced by his assassination (square to Mercury with Neptune there — Neptune bringing loss.) This was not helped by his Uranus, ruler of his sun and moon in Scorpio (can mean sudden death) square his moon. His Venus inconjunct Uranus also brought turmoil to his relationships with women and his love life which he probably didn’t see until he was smack in the middle of it and it was too late to bail out.

Obama’s chart is more stable, grounded and service oriented rather than sacrifice oriented like Lincoln’s but there are some real similarities between these two men. Obama however is a more dramatic orator, (supposedly Lincoln had a strange high pitched voice and of course Obama has a deep melidious one) and his passion is more on a gut level than Lincoln’s which was more intellectual in nature. Neither are/or where hawkish in their world view but rather keen to diplomacy first. Obama is more of a fighter with so much Leo in his chart, some would say a bit more bombastic but also much warmer. It’s doubtful that a man like Lincoln could be president during our age of TV and the internet, as his looks and personality would have been very eccentric and off putting at close inspection. Obama on the other hand has the charm and charisma needed to win the office in contemporary culture with good looks and personality playing such a key role in elections. 

Obama is about as close to the likes of Lincoln as we could concievably see in contemporary America. There are some real parallels not just in their careers but in their personalities. Obama’s main focus is the working person however, and of course Lincoln’s was a bigger more pervasive assumption that he tackled. Lincoln’s chart reflects his ability to truly shake up the statis quo, Obama’s is not really set up like that, it is focused primarily on serving the everyday American trying to get by and the economy which if Obama wins we’ll be able to dig ourselves out of the rabbit hole. If not, if McCain wins look for a major global Depression where the rich get richer and less and less fit into that one percent. Our nation will look like a bad day in Tijuana. We will see the end of the middle class if McCain wins at least until someone else takes the reigns but by then it maybe too late. 

MAKE SURE TO VOTE NOVEMBER 2.

The Big One

So from what I can tell, what starts in December, the plummet is finished around the end of January. Pluto will be officially conjuncting the DOW’s first house and will be lit by a bunch of other things. From what I can see this crash will be different than the 1929 crash in that it won’t just happen in a day but rather will be a domino type of effect happening over the course of a couple of months. This will continue for awhile. There will probably be bail outs and efforts to save the market with some positive Aquarian aspects going on (I won’t bore you with the details) but ultimately there will be such a fundamental transformation in the way the market works that it will be highly unstable for a long time to come. The period I’m pointing to will be the worst of the hits but it will remain highly volatile for the next couple of decades! I would say that it will really never be the same because once Pluto passes through the first it will go into the second house of money also causing problems. Whatever this storm is it will not only reek havoc in the short term it will change the face of the DOW. 

Being that nothing like this has happened in the history of the DOW I can’t point to history and tell you exactly how it will play out other than to say the balance of power will shift, there will be tremendous instability and losses. Perhaps it will be akin to what has happened in the US with the rich getting richer and the middle class slipping into the category of the poor — we maybe on the brink of a feudal style form of Capitalism or perhaps if the Democrats win they can turn that energy around and use the transformation to shift the power back toward the middle class. There has never been a more important time to vote your interest. If you are middle class or struggling have no sympathy for the wealthy, they are in the process of shoring up the boat so you can’t get in.