Answering Readers… (Lehman Brothers & Goldman Sachs)

Thanks everyone for posting the 2nd inauguration time. I’ll run a chart for it over the weekend and post it with analysis next week at the latest. There were a lot of really interesting comments, many of which will probably take a whole post to answer so bare with me as I address them over the next week. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t see your question answered immediately, I will get to it.

Andrew had asked about Lehman Brothers in an earlier post. I asked him if he had an incorporation date in response to his first question as to whether Lehman Brother’s was going to get out of bankruptcy. The little bit of research I did to find an incorporation date tells me Lehman Brother’s has already filed chapter 11 and is in liquidation so it seems pointless to go much more into this but I’ll post a couple of charts related to them. One was in my database, the other chart was based on a readers information which I couldn’t find corroborated anywhere. The problem with a lot of these financial institutions is that they morph and change so much and depending on how big of a change they make, it can mean they end up with a new chart. For instance if you were married and did a chart for that marriage but then got divorced and ended up re-marrying your husband, the second wedding date would be the new chart for your marriage. The original marriage chart would not be useful except to speak about the past. So its not easy chasing down all these companies and their chameleon like incorporation, merger, going public, etc. dates. And depending on the issue at hand, one of the company charts might apply more than another one. 

Here are the Lehman Brother’s charts I ran:

OK, based on the incorporation date chart given by a reader, Pluto ripped them a new one right through their 7th, legal issues, partnerships, open enemies, then through the 8th house of death, rebirth, investments, and other people’s money and then continued to rip through the 9th which would be all things foreign. That’s a lot of Pluto conjuncting almost everything in their chart for a long time, really at the start of this incorporation date. They should have consulted an astrologer! Not an easy road to hoe there. It would have been surprising if they could have actually stayed in business. It’s sort of amazing they made it through all of that according to this chart until Pluto finally hit Neptune in the 9th exactly at their time of bankruptcy. Of course Neptune rules loss, and death, the 9th would extend the bankruptcy to any foreign division and they would have not only lost their investors money here in the US but all over the world. Yikes, that was not a good time to incorporate at all.

Now the other chart is not nearly as bad, the one from my database but when Pluto hit the cusp of the 6th house, which should have been toward the end of December if memory serves, then it would have been clear there was no saving the situation and people would have been laid off and the doors would have started to close. However it does look like when that Pluto opposition happens and actually finishes off the company, investors will get some money back through the liquidation process. It will be less of course then they would have gotten but at least there will be some pay out to people.

I’ve also had a question about Goldman Sachs so here are again 2 charts, one for the newest change over from an investment bank to a holding bank and the other I think is their incorporation chart. Both are important but the newest it seems will help save them in the long run. 

The 1999 chart is an unfortunate one and as the planets transited through it, shows how and why the company was bound to fail. With Neptune and Uranus conjunct the south node in the 8th house, they were apt to be delusional, risky and repeat stupid mistakes they had made in the past. That Neptune there is a hard one to work with as it really indicates loss of investors’ money, and in Aquarius, its from being too unconventional. Uranus there shows they were willing to take too many risks with their investors money on ideas that were ungrounded in reality. When Pluto went over their Moon in the 6th this would have caused things to come to light, collapsing their reputation and making people pull their money out of the company. There would have been tremendous fear at that time. More then likely a lot of employees were also laid off at that time as well. Interesting to note that the Moon rules their chart and also real estate. Pluto in excessive and reckless Sagittarius (no offense to Sagittarius people this is the negative side here I’m talking about) hitting the emotional moon which rules not just their real estate ventures, but their public persona and reputation changed dramatically, this triggered them to go into freak out survival mode. They then filed in court to become a holding company not an investment company thereby changing their fate.

The new chart shows Pluto going through their first house which means they are trying to give themselves a big make-over and lure the powerful back into their web. It looks to me like they will find a way to survive this storm in the long run. It may take them awhile to build their momentum back, but by changing to a holding company they probably saved themselves from doom.

OK, more tomorrow! Keep posting comments! I love hearing from everyone.

Best wishes and many blessings,

Denise

The Economy: Help Me – Help You!

I know there are going to be a bunch of financial questions coming up. The stock market, the US chart and the inauguration chart all indicate we are still heading for more disaster. Which reminds me, there was another inauguration after the inauguration because the first was flubbed and I guess that has some legal relevance. I want to find out when the second oath was taken so I can run a chart on that. It should be interesting, perhaps will tell us more about the deeper issues which will come up during the next 4 years. 

So for any of you out there who want to ask about stocks or the market please find either an incorporation, start date or start trading date and the name of your stock in full, not the ticker thing. 

I believe it was Steve who asked about Lehman Brothers but he seemed to have trouble finding info on the start date. I will try to do some research and post about that company if I’m able to run a chart. Otherwise if anyone else  has information about Lehman Brothers please post it for him so I can run a chart.

Enjoy the warm glow of hope and unity, it won’t be long before the sharks start biting again.

Best wishes and many blessings to all,

Denise

Answering Readers’ Questions…

Hi everyone, hope your holiday season is going well. It looks like the downward spiral is happening in the market as predicted, despite the time period which is generally characterstically low in movement either way during the week of solstice or yule, Christmas/Hanukkah. 

I just want to say that I read on some financial blog a reference to a statement I made about gold a while back. From what I could tell at the time via the cards there wasn’t a really strong constant direction up, and despite the fact that people turn to precious metals to invest in during recessions and depression, it didn’t look like it was going to go be a straight shoot upward, which I found confusing.

Anyway, I laughed out loud when someone called me an idiot, or something like that, because I said the market was too volatile at the time of the question to predict. And the person posted something like: that twit obviously knows nothing about the market.

So let me assure you I really do know nothing about the market which I have stated numerous times. All I go on here is astrology and whether things look bad for a company, or a stock, or good. If you ask me questions about anything abstract, or that I don’t have a chart for I can’t answer you because I’m not an economist. I’m a freaky artsy, psychic, astrologer not a business/economist type.

That being said of course people are worried about their money which I’m happy to help with, but with the caveat that everyone knows I am just a psychic and an astrologer. I foresaw the first market crash a couple of weeks before it happened because of my psychic ability, but this was a general, “Get out of the market!” sort of warning that was hammered into my skull from whatever or wherever these things come from. And I picked the word tsunami back then (which later Greenspan used to describe the situation) because it felt like it was going to pull back, and then flood us, not tear us down like a tornado in one fell swoop or shake everything to pieces in a matter of moments like an earthquake.

So here goes with questions. The first is more of a comment from Grace who did some research on the world economy, and I’d like to share her post with everyone:

grace43

The government of Beligum fell this weekend due to the financial crisis and suspected corruption. http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=worldnews&id=20081222-20320

Apparently, those corporate fat cats have learned nothing. AP IMPACT: Wall Street still flying corporate jets

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081221/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_corporate_jets

On verge of failure, bank executives collected financial bonanzas, AP study finds

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-executive-bailouts,0,568377.story

This is not just happening in the US. In a few minutes search, I found dozens of articles from around the world where corporate fat cats accepted government money that they insisted they needed to continue operations are now using this money so they can have enormous bonuses and fly around in corporate jets playing golf with one another! These same people time and count their underlings bathroom breaks and dock them an hour’s pay if they are five minutes late! I can’t tell you how angry I feel thinking about this on so many levels. Obviously, it is good to be the king.

Andrew Rumsey

Will Lehman Brothers recover from their Chapter 11 of Title 11 Bankruptcy? Should I hold onto what shares I have and possibly buy more or should I sell my Lehman Brothers shares?

Hey Andrew,

Do you have an incorporation date or a start trading date for this company. I need the date, time and place and I can run a chart and let you know what I find. If you could research that for me I’ll be happy to let you know.

Also there were questions about FAZ, which I will get to later, but in the mean time can anyone explain to me what this is? You don’t need to go into too much detail, just give a basic run down, something to clarify what it is that I’m reading.

OK for now that is all. I have so much to do with the holidays as everyone does and my husband was out of town for two weeks, leaving me alone with a little baby so besides getting sick this past week, I’m way behind on everything.

Have a great holiday week.

Best wishes and many blessings to all of you,

Denise

Selling Lehman Brothers Stock…

A reader wanted to know the best time to sell Lehman Brothers. Here’s the astrological answer: I’d go with Wednesday October 1, 2008. There are lots of good aspects that day. Here are the charts:

October 1, sell date:

October 2, sell date:

Both the 1st and 2nd of October are good, but I think the 2nd is a little better. There are lots of trines and positive aspects both days but on the 2nd they are tighter. I would sell this stock before Pluto opposes its natal Mercury in February of 09. But even then it won’t be a total disaster for Lehman, a restructuring in their work force which will make people nervous of course on Wall Street. This stock looks better than most, I must say. But with everything going crazy I personally would get out of the stock market right now and maybe reinvest in 09 when the stock is down, if everything gets worked out with the stock market itself which is another story. 

Best luck and good wishes.