Gen-X as a Uranus/Pluto Metaphor…

Thomas Paine was quoted as saying, “People are more like their generation than they are like their family.” He would say that being an Aquarian. Astrologers have often undermined the importance of the outer planets in astrology but I have found them to be amazingly important in the psychology, physiology and general fate of those born under the influences of generational planets. I’ve even seen physical traits that seem to defy logic among generations. There is a certain look to those with Pluto in Leo, Neptune in Libra (the Boomers) and to those who came before them. And certainly every subsequent generation. It’s not just the way they dress, it’s the way they carry themselves and even their features seem often to reflect a subtle hint of the outer planets influence.

In the 1960s just the transiting conjunction of Uranus and Pluto was enough to cause the sexual revolution, war and the vehement anti-war movement, civil unrest and the health food movement (the transit planets were both in Virgo) and also the decline in wages leading to the death of the American dream. It  also coincided with a huge drop in the population (due to the advent of the pill and other things). Those who are commonly referred to Gen-X’ers are the smallest in number around the world.

My definition of Gen-X is astrological and goes from about 1956/57 until 1969/1970. These people have in common Neptune in Scorpio (thus the obsession with the occult, often unusual sexual proclivities and all things hidden, secret or occult) and Pluto in Virgo which brings with it a desire to be of service, interest in health, healthy living, alternative medicine, natural foods, and unfortunately also brought us lower wages on the whole, and perpetual financial problems. Many of us have had to change careers many times over (Virgo is a mutable sign ruled by Mercury) which has made it imperative to change in order to survive.

The super ultra extra generation X-ers are those born with Uranus in Virgo conjunct Pluto in Virgo. That configuration started around 1962 and ended around 1968. These people are rebellious by nature, challenging, bright and often visionary. Kurt Cobain was born 2 weeks after me the same year, we shared a grand water trine, Uranus and Pluto conjunction in Virgo making a kite off of it. He however was not as lucky as I. He had far too many planets in water. My husband reminded me that I once looked at his chart and said it looked like he was an elemental. And indeed the poor guy had no fire (like me) but was deluged by water. He had twice the water I do and no air to distance himself from his emotions. Anyone who had that chart would eventually kill themselves, he was just too sensitive and too emotional. Life was pain for him. Many of the most innovative musical artists (popular in the 1990s) had this configuration as this configuration often shakes up things. And for sure this group shook the music industry to its core, it still hasn’t recovered but that’s another story… if only they would have embraced the Pluto energy, the change and the Uranian innovation they would have figured out what Itunes did and they would be flourishing like never before but instead they resisted, trying to be conservative and killed what people loved about the art and destroyed their own business in the process by resisting new technology. Often people with Uranus/Pluto conjunct will enter into a situation right before it’s about to implode or explode and become a catalyst for this change. And of course the more the person resonates the energy of that configuration the greater their effect is on those around them.

Obama is on the outskirts of the Gen-X’er generation. He doesn’t have the radical idealism embodied by those born between 1962 and 1969. He has the practical idealism of Pluto in Virgo. He believes he can work things out rationally. However he fails to see that while one would hope the world capable of rational thought and measured intelligence, as George Bush showed us, this is not always in the genes or the generation. Pluto in Leo people (who make up the vast majority of politicians) are very emotional almost vitriolic and/or zealot-like about their ideology, of course until it changes and then they intensely defend their new world view with the same passion often using their old life as an example of why their new life is so right on. I could name a thousand celebrity examples of this, but the first one that pops to mind is “Dr.” Laura Schelssinger (she’s not actually psychologist as many assume she actually has a degree in physiology which would make her qualified to be a coach, PE professor/teacher or give her good background to be a physical therapist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Schlessinger .) All that aside, she rails on about the evils of divorce, oh yeah, she’s is a divorcee’, about the evils of adulterous affairs, that too she is supposedly guilty of and a host of other things which she vehemently chastises her callers for admitting without ever showing her own vulnerability. This quality in various forms can be seen in the Pluto in Leo generation often to good effect. They can throw themselves into things and truly effect change like nobodies business because they believe so strongly in their ideas and the Leo pride and arrogance allows them to do so without question. However the Achilles heel (for those who live in the shadow side like Dr. Laura) is intense, disgusting and ridiculous hypocrisy like George W. spending his life as the poster boy for cocaine and the party lifestyle and then doing a 180 a few years before he decides he wants to get into politics. Very convenient for him to have found God.

Well, enough ragging on the negative sides of that generation. There are a lot of people, the vast majority of the population that fall under this configuration, and for sure there are many great people and many who have used the bravery and sureness of Pluto in Leo to do amazing things. It’s just those few wankers who ruin it. But of course there are always wankers in every generation.

The Generation Y’ers are still coming into their own. Unfortunately, the Neptune in Sagittarius and Pluto in Libra combination is a hard one for personal (marriage type) relationships. Neptune in Sag wants to explore, go crazy, party, see the world, drink and generally over indulge and Pluto (which as I’ve stated is powerful transformative energy) wants to destroy, and the sign it’s in, Libra makes the aim partnerships, marriage, legal matters, injustice. On the good side of this, this generation has many strong activists for social change, those who are committed to changing the laws to make life equal for all (both Sag and Libra have legal implications.) On the negative side there is the Paris Hilton’s of this generation, who exemplifies the shadow side of this group of people.

The dark side of Gen-X is the extreme desire to be individual and the almost pathological need to be considered unique so much so that one is hard pressed to get someone in that generation to admit being part of a generation, which of course is absurd. I think many out grew this as they got older and reluctantly, and with much resentment, realized they were actually part of a group that could be “marketed to.” Other problems that I’ve seen among my peers are a feeling of hopelessness + powerlessness = apathy which is partially due to so much Virgo in Gen-X charts. Virgos have a tendency to feel small and of little value. We are the first generation to grow up mostly in single parent households (due to 50% divorce rates among our parents generation), having to adapt to radical changes in the roles of women and men. And the first generation to do worse than our parents generation did. We have often felt like outcasts and freaks, partially due to the inner turmoil between our conservative nature (we can be weirdly prudish and old-fashioned the Uranus/Pluto in Virgo) in opposition to the desire to wreak havoc (hence the Punk rock or Alternative music revolution embraced and continued by Pluto in Virgo). We want to shake things up and alternatively go forward at the same time, actually the music, literature and aesthetics of Steampunk pretty much sum up the conflicting weirdness of Gen-X people.

I focus a lot on Gen-X because not many astrologers have since we are a minor group, and difficult to understand from the outside in. We are the invisible children of the Me generation, the shadowed group that never really got a foothold as the Boomers extended their time in the work place, the group of kids left to raise themselves, fend for themselves in the face of declining jobs (since 1967) and many of us came into the career market as the first George Bush recession hit in the early 90s. Believe me I don’t think we have it the worst. We were and are a hallmark generation, the first truly modern generation bridging the gap between an America that protected its citizens from greedy corporations and stood on the side of labor, and equality and the wealthy pluto/corporatocracy we have now. We were just the first generation of people to go backwards – the beginning of the empire’s unraveling, back toward the standards of people who we were taught as children only existed in developing nations. By this I mean a health care system ranked 37th in the world below many developing nations. We are one step closer to indentured servitude and slavery each year as jobs continue to go overseas where labor is virtually free and we learn to live on the sort of money that seemed impossible 20 years ago to the Pluto in Leo generation. I know many people in their late 30s to mid 40s who are living off of about $600 a month in impossible places like the Bay Area. They live in abject poverty and can only pray they don’t get sick since they can’t afford care and apply to every job remotely related to anything they’ve done to no avail.

Let’s face it this is not a recession. It’s a depression. According to the most recent statistics 1 in 5 people is unemployed. That is 20% of the population, it was 25% during the Great Depression. Health care reform is not only imperative (and a moral obligation)  but so is throwing lobbyists out of Washington and actually  holding corporations to the same laws that we as human beings have to abide by.

Best wishes and happy holidays,

Denise

Neptune, Jupiter Retrograde Opposite the Moon & It’s Effect on Celebrity Deaths

With the news of both Farah Fawcett and Michael Jackson’s deaths on the heels of Ed McMahon, I thought of the old wives tale that celebrities seemed to die in threes. Which appears to have some bizarre truth to it. I also knew from memory Farah was an Aquarian and that Michael Jackson (although his sun was in Virgo) had his moon  in Aquarius.

Right now Jupiter the planet of expansion, excess and general bigness (usually a beneficent planet) is retrograde (going backwards and many would say in this position its beneficial elements are greatly lessened) is exactly conjunct Neptune the planet of loss, death, psychic phenomena and spirituality, also music, the arts, photography, the sea, etc. Together they were opposed by one of the lights (as we call them in astrology ie., the sun and the moon) the moon in Leo with a lot of loose squares coming from all directions to this configuration. It’s not a surprise that three iconographic celebrities would cross over during this period. McMahon’s death happened when the moon was in Cancer most likely conjunct his natal Pluto and interestingly both Fawcett and  Jackson were in the Pluto in Leo generation. Pluto ruling death and transformation, sexuality and the underworld. This trigger of the moon potentially conjuncting their natal Plutos along with the Neptune/Jupiter retrograde conjunction sitting near Fawcett’s Sun (vitality, life force, soul) and Jackson’s Moon (persona, emotions, past life, childhood, personality) would be enough to push them in their already frail states to the other side. Ed McMahon with the recent stress of a foreclosure looming over him at his age combined with the planets were too much to fight at his age. (I have yet to look up his chart but I will.)

17 and 1/2 months ago when my daughter was born Neptune in Aquarius was sitting directly on my sun. I knew early on in my pregnancy I would have serious trouble, had a dream of having preeclampsia which happened, and knew that my yet to be proporly diagnosed neurological condition would reek havoc on me. I was vigiliant about talking to a neurologist and squaring away what to do in case I had to have an emergency c-section (my back is fused from a childhood injury). I was the one who caught the preeclampsia by buying a home blood pressure ki,t but to make a long story short, I would not have survived giving birth to my daughter if I had not been psychic and been warned in dreams and through premonitions about what was going to happen.  Luckily, I was able to use the Neptune on my sun for greater psychic clarity telling the nurses before I began to seizure that it was going to happen. But truth be told I’m very sure my dauughter and I would have died had I not been psychically attuned to the situation. And according to my OBGYN she had never come so close or been so scared of losing a patient. She insisted I never have another child as my risk of death was just far too high. I say this only to illustrate the intensity of Neptune conjunct a light in a person’s chart (the sun or moon).

An astrologer friend who looked at my chart that day was in tears when I didn’t answer my room phone. Her husband told me later she was sure I had died based on my chart. So although I haven’t done the charts for Farah and Michael Jackson knowing this intense conjunction was close to them was probably the reason they were no longer able to stay a part of our world.

No matter what the autopsy on Michael Jackson finds (and I’m sure it will show that he was malnurited due to anorexia and died of a heart attack from over-exerting himself with his upcoming new tour) it was his time to pass over as it was Farah’s. Even if Michael had been taking too many prescription drugs I’ve had the feeling for the past five years or so he was near the end of his life. He would have died irregardless of the medications. And of course Farah fought hard but cancer is an unseen enemy that truthfully can only be endured with grace which she did.

May their souls go peacefully into the light.

Blessings to all,

Denise

Back To Astrology…

I’ve gotten several requests for how to figure different issues out in terms of astrology such as: when the best time to start a business is and just general information about how to use astrology to help with people’s personal lives.

Astrology is a complex art and it would be difficult for me, even impossible for me to detail the best time to start a business or how to fully interpret a chart in a few posts but I do plan on giving some tips and also I highly recommend this series of books authored by Marion March and Joan McEvers which break down the basics of astrology allowing each individual to put it together in a way that makes sense for them. Here are links to each of the books in the series:
The Only Way to Learn Astrology, Volume 1, Second Edition
The Only Way to Learn Astrology, Vol. 2: Math & Interpretation Techniques
The Only Way to Learn Astrology: Horoscope Analysis Vol. 3
Only Way to Learn About Tomorrow
The Only Way to Learn About Relationships, Vol. 5: Synastry Techniques
The Only Way to Learn about Horary and Electional Astrology, Vol. 6

I started off as a psychic (professionally) and was born with that ability, have always had dreams that came true, knowings, visions, etc. In my teen years when my ability got to be too much for me to handle I tried to turn it off only to find it come back times 100 when I moved out on my own. I was overwhelmed and began studying methods so I could control the ability rather than it controlling me. I learned to read the tarot, and pretty much every form of divination. Studied with a number of old time occultists and learned many tricks on how to stop and start the ability at will, how to psychically protect myself and how to focus the ability so that it could be used in almost any situation. It wasn’t until I was working in my early 20s as a professional psychic that I met many astrologers who started teaching me the art. I did not learn from this set of books, but from other astrologers who all recommended these books once they came out (however by then I already had my system down) and also from earlier books that were more esoteric and not as well organized as this series is. 

It certainly helps a person’s work as an astrologer if they have psychic ability although it is not required to do a good job. And actually astrology is a tool that can be used by everyone to help see them through difficult times by explaining the lessons to be learned and by the gift of knowing the situation a person is in at that time is not permanent but temporal. It also can give clarity when we are lost, and give a person a place to direct their energy.

We are all born with different talents and abilities. It’s always been my theory that we all have some gift given to us, something we are brilliant at, which if tapped into, will not only provide for us financially, but add to the greater collective good, if we use it. However, most people don’t use their true gift because they are encouraged to become this or that by their parents who are often trying to be practical, and have the best intentions by doing so. Often however people are encouraged to go into fields which may pay well at the time they go into them, but they find that not only are they miserable in their job/career the path they have chosen but as time marches on their forced profession becomes antiquated and less and less practical.  

Here’s the thing, if we follow our gifts we are rewarded. If we try to be too logical and do what will pay the most we end up chasing a dollar, and as we’ve seen it doesn’t lead to anymore stability than following our natural gift. This is one of the great gifts of astrology, it enables us to be clear about where to direct our energy and what our true gifts are as well as when the timing in our life will come together with our goals.

I was talking to a musician the other day, he and his wife (who is a writer) both felt when they made their choices at an early age to follow their dreams they were being crazy, foolish and impractical. This is how their families made them feel. He was encouraged to go into a trade and make a good honest living. Well, as he could see 20 years later, he had actually carved a niche for himself and was just as stable as a guy who became a plumber. Actually more stable than someone who took up a trade at least at this juncture in time. He made the point that he felt bad for those people who had abandoned their dreams only to find themselves out of a job now as well as unhappy in their career choice. They often thought they were making a sacrifice to have stability and family taking up what they thought was practical only to have it snatched away from them. (This is an issue I will go into in my next post.)

When my father was born in 1914 (crazy, huh, he was 24 years older than my mother) being a mechanical engineer was the highest paying gig there was. Of course his mother who was very worried about money and status, forced him into that profession. He died in 1977 and even by that time all the big sky scrappers had pretty much been built along with the subway systems in major cities (of which he engineered many in Chicago when he was younger). So by the end of his career he was doing industrial buildings, and had his own construction business which wasn’t very stable. We had wildly varying income flow when I was growing up and of course when he died, it was just all around bad , but you see my point.

What may seem very stable at one point in time can collapse, to be replaced by something else. At this point in our history as Americans we export very few products overseas, mostly we export our culture which is art, music, film, TV. We don’t make many things anymore.

40 years ago when my grandmother worked at US Steel in Gary, Indiana if you would have told someone America would be producing almost nothing they would have thought you were a crazy person. “But America is known for making the best products in the world. We are known for our great craftsmanship, and innovation.” Well, now that would be Japan for autos and everything else is made in what used to be an industrial joke, China.

Back to astrology again. The thing about it is every planet rules different professions, industries and they can be very diverse. For example: Neptune rules music, film, photography, oil, fisherman, drunks, drug addicts, psychics, spirituality, gurus, spiritual products and anything to do with the sea, so boats, boat making etc. Now depending on what house Neptune falls (as each house has a meaning) and what sign we can narrow down how Neptune will act in a person’s chart. This along with aspects the planets make to each other and a weighting system, a lot can be told. But still there are many permutations of each planet and each house, even how aspects work. This is where intuition comes in handy, or if one is a more left brained full blown astrologer some strictures and systems that an astrologer develops over time as their personal guide.

To make things more complicated there are numerous types of house systems based on different theories. I use the old stand by Placidus, but many people prefer Koch, or any variety of dozens of different ways to break the heavens down. And to even further complicate things there are 2 entirely different types of astrology, Western/Tropical and Vedic/Sidereal. Tropical uses the ancient placement of the heavens and Sidereal the actual placement. As the poles have shifted (they are always on the move and go completely through a constellation over a period of about 2000 years — we entered the Piscean age around the time of Christ and are now getting close to the Aquarian age) the placement of the stars within the constellations shifts. Currently, the two systems are off by about 24 degrees. So unless a person is born at the end of a sign, such as a Capricorn born on January 20th, then that person would sidereally be a Sagittarius.

There is good news though for anyone interested in studying the ancient art of astrology, as long as a person commits to a system it seems to work. It doesn’t seem to matter which system, somehow there is enough repetition and synchronicity in the stars for all of the different permutations of astrology to work. Astrologers generally arrive at the same conclusions no matter what system they use. I suppose it’s like the old adage all roads lead to the same mountain peak. Or to be more contemporary, astrology is fractal, a microcosm of the macrocosm, and when examining a chart the system a person uses, decodes the chart according to the strictures of that system. 

I have found that for westerners the western systems works best as the eastern/vedic type of astrology has a tendency to be more fatalistic which is appropriate in countries and cultures where people have arranged marriages, or are tracked in certain ways and given less freedom to pursue themselves than in western cultures. I would imagine for those who are born and live in those cultures it would be best to stick with the astrology of that culture as it would be most accurate to the environment. 

So over the next couple of weeks I’ll try and give some basic break downs of how astrology works, and how people can interpret their own charts, and even perhaps find the best time to buy cars, set up business, etc. I will use the charts of some of the people who have written me via e-mail without of course using their names so they can remain anonymous.

If anyone has an astrological question about how to read something in their chart or wants me to cover a specific astrological question you can e-mail me at: happypeopleusa@aol.com. I will use your info and question anonymously to be answered on the blog. I may not be able to answer everyone if there are too many questions, but I will try.

Best wishes and many blessings to all you good people,

Denise

The Outer Planets: How they effect us personally (part 1)

For those of you who have researched astrology, you’ve probably read that Pluto, Neptune and Uranus are more generational in nature and don’t effect our personality or us personally in the same way that the “personal” planets like: the Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Saturn do. (Of course the Sun and Moon are not actually planets but for the sake of astrological influence are lumped in with them and referred to them as such.) But let me assure everyone that this is a major error and misnomer on the part of astrologers that I plan to explain.

The argument set forth by astrologers is that because these outer bodies are slow moving, they can’t directly effect individuals and instead have more to do with whole generations. True, in a way, but lets examine this assumption. There is a quote I read many years ago by Thomas Paine (which I’ll have to find later and post exactly) that states basically: People are more like their generation then their own parents.

People born within a generation (I’ve noticed) not only have  have physical characteristics about them that stand out. The Baby Boomers have Pluto in Leo and Neptune in Libra. Leo the lion has a mane, is it any surprise that this generation was obsessed with hair? They even had a musical with this name and it was a major source of protest for hippies to let their hair grow in every direction, and as long as it could get. This is just the superficial start of how Pluto in Leo plays itself out within the generation.

This was the generation dubbed, “The Me Generation,” again Leo rules the ego, family, creativity, fertility, children, child-like behavior, speculation, hobbies, theater, drama, performing, And this generation was the first to radically change the dynamics of the family literally Pluto = transformation, death and rebirth, sexuality and in Leo the family, the performing arts (hello rock and roll.) This was the beginning of massive divorce rates and partner swapping, which would be the Neptune in Libra. Neptune = confusion, delusion, illusion, spirituality, psychic ability and Libra = Partnerships, marriage, the visual arts, issues of fairness, peace, strategy, legal matters. All people in this generation have dealt with permutations of these issues directly. And in a strange way this over-arching theme among people born from the late 1930s to the mid-late 1950s I’d argue effects them more because they not only have personally dealt with these issues in various forms in their own lives, but it colors their perception of history and world view because their peers also share these same issues and there is a presumption cast on all humanity that these themes are ever present, when in actuality they are, but not to the same degree.

Let’s look at the generation after the boomers, the Gen-Xers, born from about 1957-1971 (this is from an astrological view point not the standard arbitrary time frame given for generations). Less people were born during this period then any other, especially when Pluto conjuncted Uranus in Virgo. This was the height of the sexual revolution from about 1962-1968. Uranus rules revolution, and Virgo rules: perfectionism, health food, dietary concerns, health, medicine, service to others, analysis, criticism, and is associated with the fashion industry. With Uranus conjunct Pluto during a chunk of this generation from about 1962-1968, we have seen a rise in (and I know because this because I am part of this nutty generation) over-zealous almost religious fervor about health food, dietary issues and exercise. On the positive side there has been an exploration (by this generation in particular) of eastern medicine, energy work and all things non-traditional in regards to healing the body.

This configuration also gives a strange sort of not wanting to be part of a generation thing, where there is an emphasis on individuality because of the Uranus interaction with Pluto, and a recycling of the past in new ways, hence the obsession with vintage everything. Also this generation has Neptune in Scorpio which brought to the forefront the modern primitive/tattoo clan, and also an acceptance and fascination with the occult in general among my peeps. 

I’m going to continue this post tomorrow, discecting generation Y and beyond. And then wrap it all in a nice bow and illustrate how these generational traits play a personal role in our lives.

I’m going to be lazy and sleep now. It’s been a very hectic couple of weeks, and it’s almost the holidays. And I haven’t even finished shopping! That’s how behind I am.

Best wishes to all of you. May your dreams come true (as long as they are not nightmares) and may the Universe bestow many blessings upon you, and your loved ones.

Denise

Answering Readers’ Questions…(India & Pakistan War?)

Hi everyone. Hope everyone had a good holiday for those of you in the US. And I’m very sorry for those who went through the horrors in Mumbai. Wishing all the people of that city much peace and healing in this very troubled time for them. I will focus on issues regarding this area of the world in this post.

 

Nitin

Hi Denise,

hope u r well. thanks for all your contribution for the blogs. My main concern was always qantas and another recent incident 3 days ago mean a qantas airplane had to shut down one engine and land on one engine only. My gut feelings are not good.

Also i would like to mentioned that i had the weirdest dream the previous week and it looks like nightmare. Then came the Mumbi attacks. I just learned that a family friend who was staying at the Taj got killed. may be my dream was an omen.

Now the next question is Will India and Pakistan go to war?

why i think it is imporant to ask this question is because it would have an impact in the war on terror in Afghanistan. I feel a new test for president elect Obama on international affairs is coming.

Hi Nintin,

I thought of you when I heard there had been a crash of a training jet. I think it was New Zealand Air which of course is not even the same country, but it is in the general area of Australia. I always think its best to trust your own intuition especially if you or someone you love is directly involved with the issue at hand. You more than anyone will be plugged into the zeitgeist of that company especially if you are an intuitive type which it seems you are. So trust yourself. What’s the worst thing that can happen by doing so? If you work for them, you get another job and nothing goes wrong with the company. Well, maybe its because you were meant to move on with your life. And even that is a good reason to listen to your intuition. 

I want to stress here for EVERYONE: ALWAYS TRUST YOUR INTUITION! It will never lie to you. It will never lead you astray. It will always guide you, if you let it. It is intuition that saves peoples lives in crisis situations. IF SOMETHING OR SOMEONE DOESN’T FEEL RIGHT — TRUST YOURSELF! Forget being polite, forget social morres. I have hear countless examples of people trusting themselves and barely escaping serial killers and those who went against everyone intuition and were later nearly murdered. 

Why do you think all the animals on the island of Sumatra started walking up hill hours before the tsunami hit? Trained elephants were seen literally breaking free from their chains just hours before the water rose. These were animals that had never exhibited this behavior before. The answer is simple. They have instinct — intuition. Something we all have, but humans turn it off, and chose to listen to our logical brain. We talk ourselves out of our feelings, often at our own peril.

So if your about to get on an airplane, and you suddenly feel really panicky, and have no logical reason why, have always been fine before a flight, and just start to sweat, or itch, or something weird as you stand in line to get on — bail out. I hearby grant you permission! Death isn’t an worthy test of your psychic abilities. 

It’s my feeling that in the case of 9/11 and in Mumbai, Madrid and in London were these attacks have taken place, more people were not killed because they did get a weird feeling, and people trusted it. There should have been more people who died in all of these situations which tells me, and it should tell everyone, some part of us knows danger and that part is ALWAYS to be TRUSTED. Above and beyond logic, psychics, preachers, priests, gurus, presidents, authorities, whomever. 

Now for your next question. I’m going to post both the charts of Pakistan and India here and do some analysis:

OK, I know I posted a lot of charts, some are comparisons from India’s side, then from Pakistan’s side of the equation. It’s interesting to see how at the very beginning both of these countries were very similar, and would have gotten along like twins. 

Then the second chart for Pakistan when it became an Islamic Republic, still has some commonality with its mother country, but takes a strong turn. 

Looking at the transits on the start date of the Mumbai terrorist attacks and onward, Pluto was at 0 degrees Capricorn (a critical degree) exactly opposing India’s Mars and in Pakistan’s original chart, their Mars as well. It was also making an exact inconjunction to India’s rising. Pluto rules nuclear power, mind blowing experiences, the occult, death, the hidden and unseen, power over others and Mars rules aggression, war, fighting, guns, weapons of all kinds, the military, etc.

There was also an exact fatal Neptune opposition from Aquarius transiting the country’s 10th house, opposing the country’s Sun. This was also an attempt on the part of the terrorists to disrupt India’s business and wound the spirit of the country, and the feeling of safety not just for westerners, but for Indian nationals as well.

Transiting Uranus was also making an applying square to the country’s Jupiter in the 6th house (almost exact), giving chaos a greater opportunity. Luck was not on the India’s side. Uranus also was making an applying inconjunction to the mid-point of the natal Sun and Venus, so the health and financial well being were suddenly disrupted, and men, women and children were all fair game to these disgusting vile sickos. 

India (as we all know) has been recently blaming Pakistan for the terrorist attacks, and calling it their 9/11. Now here’s the very scary part: transiting Pluto will be at 2 degrees of Capricorn, going through Pakistan’s 9th house of foreign countries, squaring the countries Mars. This happens around the 20th of January 2009. This could very much mean a retaliatory attack from India against Pakistan at that time, and it could (with Pluto’s involvement) involve nuclear weapons, perhaps not the high powered kind we have, but still. This information may not be known to the general public right away, if ever, or might not come out immediately because of the 12th house involvement. It maybe that India takes out terrorist camps with dirty bombs, or some kind of weapon that isn’t like Hiroshima, but smaller, more targeted and meant to surgically destroy a particular area. But chances are good they won’t just use traditional weapons with this transit and are more likely to use very powerful, surgical type of warheads or nuclear type of weapons.

Transiting Neptune will also be opposing Pakistan’s natal Jupiter in the 5th house in January, exactly. I would think there would be some global confusion in terms of their alliances with other countries at that time, also with Jupiter conjunct Pluto in Leo in the 5th it seems this country has a tendency to control its children to a pretty extreme degree, this Neptune opposition could put these children in real danger. I’ll put this bluntly, it looks like there is a strong element of brain washing geared toward children, and children are often gambled with in order to gain power (Pluto conjunct Jupiter in Leo 5th house), with this Neptune opposition, many of them could die as a result of them being used for a particular ideology (Neptune=loss, 11th house=ideology). So it could be that many of the terrorists and terrorists in training are actually pretty young, some even children.

Then into late February Saturn will retrograde, making a transiting opposition to Pakistan’s natal Mercury in the 12th house (ruler of the 3rd and 6th), I believe causing more conventional type of conflict perhaps an invasion across the boarder from India into Pakistan (3rd house) perhaps even declaring a sort of martial law or a take over of the country (6th house of general health of the country, Saturn being constriction, opposing Mars violence, 12th house behind the scene and ones hidden enemies).

All in all, I’m going to say there is a very strong chance that come early-mid January of this year we will see talks between India and Pakistan break down completely as transiting Mercury will oppose India’s natal Mercury and there is no glue nataly between India and Pakistan, they really do not know how to communicate with one another. Pakistan has Mercury in Pisces in the 12th, very duplicitous, sneaky, religious in an organized religion sort of way, intellectually repetitive and India has Mercury in Leo in the 3rd, very bold, dramatic, intellectual, wordy, perhaps even threatening things they often don’t ever intend to do (under normal circumstances). They are like a goat and a pig trying to carry on a conversation, just doesn’t work. Once talks break down, this is when we will see targeted nuclear strikes coming from India in my opinion toward the end of January and then there is a strong possiblity of a conventional war/invasion in February.

OK, I was planning on going over a bunch more questions tonight, but got very absorbed in all the charts relating to India and Pakistan.

I will get to the question of NIFTY tomorrow. 

Malayali:

Do you have the start date of when that market began? And when trading starts each day for NIFTY? I can run charts based on that and give some analysis. Please post it if you have that info. I will try to do some research myself in the mean time and I will post about it tomorrow.