Happy Inauguration!

Today felt more like New Years then New Years day did to me. It was really very moving. And inspired me to feel that we have again began to walk the right path, the one going forward. We’ve spent the last eight going backwards and imploding. I remember the Bush inauguration, boy was it different! Instead of their being over 2 million people gleefully wanting to see the President sworn in and people openly weeping with joy, the street that Bush traveled down was blocked off because there were so many protesters, many of whom were throwing eggs and various other rotten fruits and vegetables at his limo. When I think about that compared to the joy and hopefulness of this new inclusive administration that actually thought to have an open inauguration ball for the people, a president who was put in office by the good people of this land instead of corporate America, I feel pride in humanity. There are so many truly good hearted people, problem is most of them are not CEO’s or in the halls of power. But I feel with Obama we have one of our own to represent us. 

I wanted to say there were some really interesting posts today and I want to get to them but will do so tomorrow. Today I want to focus on the coming administration and the chart I had for Lincoln which was wrong, and now righted, comparing it again to Obama. And also the real time that inauguration took place and what it means in terms of its resonance with the next 4 years.

barack-obama-abe-linconlLooking at these charts I see even more in common then the wrong chart for Lincoln I had. Of course, Lincoln’s birth time might be off, all I could find was a reference to him being born around sun-up and also a website that had guessed his birth time at 6:54 AM probably based on this old folk lore, but it doesn’t matter because it’s close enough to a solar chart to tell us what we need to know anyway. 

There are all sorts of karmic indicators between the two men born about 150 years apart. It’s quite remarkable and seems to imply that if Obama isn’t the reincarnation of Lincoln then he is meant to finish what Lincoln started in terms of the inclusion of all people into the political process.

Here are just a few bizarre examples of the karma indicated in the charts, Obama’s rising is conjunct Lincoln’s Sun and Rising, Barack’s part of fortune is conjunct Lincoln’s Neptune and Saturn in Sagittarius, Barack’s south node is conjunct Lincoln’s Sun and rising. The south node and Saturn are both the main indicators (and the moon as well) in regards to past lives. Here we see that the south node, where would have left of in a past life is directly conjunct the rising and Sun of Lincoln, add Uranus to this conjunction, further emphasizing the Aquarian (humanitarian, global, broad minded, highly idealistic) direction that Obama not only has had in his previous life (south node) but is going toward in his current lifetime. Uranus rules Aquarius, giving Obama’s north node an Aquarian flavor. Now that’s pretty connected, but then look at Saturn, another big karmic indicator.

Obama’s Saturn is conjunct Lincoln’s part of fortune and his Moon. Again a serious karmic connection. And Lincoln’s Saturn and Neptune are directly conjunct Obama’s part of fortune. So literally, Lincoln set in motion laws and karma that directly benefitted Obama, allowing Obama to continue Lincoln’s mission of bringing idealism, hope and morality to the office of the Presidency.

Let’s not forget, not only was Lincoln coming into office while slavery, a moral outrage, was in force but also about 40 years from the Seminole war/trail of tears — the genocide of the Native American people, especially the Seminole tribes during Jackson’s administration, the Creek being one of the hardest hit. I’m sure there were plenty of Americans who didn’t like the direction the country was going in, morally ambigious (to be generous) and morally reprehensable to be more accurate. Let’s not forget the movement of people like John Brown, Harriet Tubman and a host of others who were not only against slavery, but saw it as evil. And here comes Lincoln, he played it pretty cool during the election, but his moral objection to this atrocity was so great, he was willing to push the country to war in order to correct our course. Ironically, Lincoln became president in 1861 and Obama was born exactly 100 years later in 1961. I could go on with the similarities between these two men, but I already have in a previous post and what I’m seeing now with the correction is only that these two men are more alike then I imagined.

Ok, a couple more things, their Suns are in opposite signs and their Moons make an opposition (despite it being out of sign it is still only 5 degrees apart). Especially when the Sun is involved in an opposition there are a lot of similar qualities between the two signs because when the Sun is in Leo, the Earth is in Aquarius and vice-versa. There are many other things that strike me, such as Lincoln’s Mars in Libra and Obama’s Mars in the 7th house, both fighters for justice and equality.

Obama’s love life is much better though then poor Lincoln’s who was attracted to very self-absorbed women. If Obama was Lincoln in a past life, he seems to have figured that lesson out because he has a much more harmonious love life than Lincoln did. Obama is attracted to women (in terms of long term love relationships) who are strong, dramatic, romantic and nurturing. Can’t say the same for Lincoln, he was stuck with Venus in Aries in the first, a double whammy. I bet Mary Todd was violent both verbally and physically, full of anger and selfish — these qualities may have been considered insane in a woman back then when women were supposed to put aside their own egos and support their husbands. Mary Todd probably tried to do this, but she wanted to be the center of attention and be in control. More than likely she resented her husband and the world for the unfairness women endured, having to sublimate her own needs and ambitions for her family.

Now let’s look at the inauguration chart and see what it says about the tone of the next 4 years:

barack-obama-inauguration 

Wow! Can you see all that Aquarius and Pisces at the top of the chart! Despite the Moon being void of course, which in my opinion can make anything possible and isn’t necessarily a bad thing, there is a real focus on idealism, humanitarianism, the greater good and sacrificing for the good of the whole. The Sun is conjunct Mercury, Jupiter and the north node all in Aquarius in the 10th, meaning there will be a renewed sense of our common humanity, a focus on communication and through communication we will find our greatest fortune and direction.

It’s interesting to note that Aquarius rules TV and new technology. The inclusion of the “Neighborhood Ball,” that was both televised and interconnected with parties around the world via the internet and text messaging is not just a fluke with this administration. We will see Obama pushing and using new technology to interconnect humanity and to create a greater sense of community, things he’s already done but this won’t stop now that he’s become president, from this chart it looks like this will be expanded upon. He really will be open to any good idea no matter where it comes from with all that Aquarius — it means he will be thinking outside the box and won’t care about an ideology being condoned by the elite but rather will truly get inspiration, motivation and problem solving from all sorts of people.

So if you have any good ideas, seriously, e-mail him. He will pay attention. One of the things I loved was after the “Neighborhood Ball,” was his interview with a random woman reporter who I’ve never seen before, and I”m sure for her this was a huge break to get to interview the new president. He actually honestly thanked her.

He is an amazing mix of dignity, humility and confidence that is so rare. Can you imagine Bush thanking someone like this unknown entertainment reporter? No, he wouldn’t even talk to her or know her name. If she bothered to shout a question at him coming off a helicopter, Bush would probably have responded to her with something like, “No comment, Leggy.”

Doesn’t it feel like you were finally freed after being at a really crappy job for 8 years chained to a desk with only a naked buzzing florescent light bulb dangling over your head? And now you just took a long hot shower and are drinking a cup of cocoa by a fire in some nice cozy cabin? Bush being gone is such a relief, it’s hard to even believe it’s real. I’m wondering if I’m going to wake up tomorrow only to find its all been one amazing dream. It almost seems like some cheesy Hollywood movie where the good guys win. It kind of restores ones faith in goodness.

I want to mention all the Pisces in the 11th house which reinforces Obama’s message of giving back to the community and encouraging people to serve others for the good of the whole. This will also continue to be a main theme throughout his administration, not just a campaign promise or stump speech anomaly.

There are a couple of troubling things, one is Neptune making a waning square to the moon (which is void of course) involving the 7th and 11th houses, signifying there maybe unrealistic expectations placed on Obama’s administration. The Moon in Scorpio going through the 7th house of the public would indicate that people may expect him to fix the war, financial crisis and make nice-nice with the rest of the world either unrealistically fast or out of just plain old delusion.  With Pluto in Cap transiting the 8th house, the indication is major transformation and shake up related to banking, financial, corporate and halls of power. Obviously this is already showing with our failing economy and electing the first African American President who implicit in his color alone, has shaken up the Washington establishment and re-defined what a candidate not only can look like but what his message can be. Pluto in Capricorn however indicates there is more transformation in corporations, big business, financial institutions and wall street ahead. And with Mars in Capricorn in the 9th Obama will have to contend with some infighting among allies on how to deal with the world’s economic crisis. There will also be resentment toward the US by other countries who will rightfully blame us for causing this problem. However, unfairly Obama will have to deal with some very angry foreign leaders who will see us as the reason their economies are faltering. I don’t see this as being a warlike sort of thing, just heated debate among friends on how to solve this problem. I can see why some astrologers were freaking out over the potential for Obama’s assasination for the obvious reasons but also because Pluto is in the 8th house. But in my opinion and my gut, Pluto there (especially because it’s in Cap) is related to the world economic structure, financial and business worlds not Obama himself. These institutions are going to have serious trouble, many more major corporate institutions, banks, and businesses will become defunct. This will not be a time of greed, over-zealous capitalism and giant profits.

It will be a time of reckoning, spiritual evolution, appreciating what is truly important, each other and helping one another. It will be the best of times and the worst of times for big business, investors and a lot of people who may still potentially loose their jobs. However, with Taurus rising it does look like Obama will focus on creating new jobs for people. Perhaps the creation of re-education programs geared toward not only technology and service, but for working with the elderly and dying, will be encouraged through this administration.

Despite the financial sour pickle we are going to eat and the release of information (probably within the next day or so) that will make the market start to free fall some more, we will be a better, stronger, wiser, kinder people. Also with Saturn in the 5th, the stock market will have the squeeze put on it both in terms of new laws and regulations and also its numbers continuing to constrict rather then bloom.

I think we may see the end of capitalism as we have known it. But once new laws (which there will likely be many international as well) are put into place, there stock market will recover. And with Saturn being in Virgo, down the road the next set of stocks to get  hit will be health care related stuff as it seems Obama will restructure that as well. 

OK, enough of my rambling. Please post your comments and questions. You all, always amaze me with your insights. I’m fortunate to have such a brilliant group of people who bother to peer inside my nutty brain.

Best wishes and many blessings to all of you,

Denise 

Oh! I forgot to mention another kind of cool thing. Obama is the 44th president, that’s a karmic master number!

Happy Inauguration!

Answering Readers…

Hello everyone. Hope you all have had a wonderful start to the new year. I’m going to do a post (over the weekend) explaining how to figure out your personal year (numerology) and what it means for you. It’s pretty fun and always interesting to look back and see the cycles of your own life. In numerology you go through years 1-9 and then start over again. And from my own observation there does seem to be resonance when looking back 9 years prior. It’s not the same of course, but the issues do seem to have cross over. But I’ll save that for later.

Here’s the first question from Sallyy:

sallyy

Denise, Can you give recommendations on books on Tarot, or ways to study Tarot? You said you learned from the Brotherhood of Light. Do you recommend C.C. Zain’s book? Thanks, Sally

Hi Sallyy,

I checked out the C.C. Zain book after you mentioned it on the blog, but only in a cursory way. It looked good to me. I learned from a person from the Brotherhood of Light, but I did read a zillion books about tarot before that happened, and found most of them to be rather unhelpful. It was always like a bad cook book where you had to look up things, and try to apply too many interpretations to a card. Which is why early on I chucked my Rider-Waite deck and book, and used the Motherpeace deck. It was much easier for me to relate to, and to read without having to look everything up; I could use its images to unleash associations and focus on the person.

Actually this is really how using the cards work best. More as a tool like a scrying mirror or crystal ball would work, but with more to go off of. The best astrologers and numerologists work this way as well. That being said you can learn the craft of reading which is rooted in the Kabbalah, and numerology.

It looked like the Zain book actually delved into this quite a bit, however the writing seemed a bit arcane and well, occult. If you have done a lot of reading on the subject it probably will all make sense, if not it might be kind of dense. However, the book is down loadable for free so you might as well read it! There seemed to be a lot of good information in there. Here’s the link to the free down load in case you don’t have it or other people are interested:
http://www.lightofegypt.com/index.aspx?action=view_articles&folderToUse=courses/Book_06_The_Sacred_Tarot#

My other suggestion would be to really research all the decks that are out there and find one that speaks to you and practice reading your friends. When doing this, first clear your mind, do a protection and ask your higher self/God/Goddess/Universe/Creator whatever your personal connection is to the divine, to give you the absolute truth while you read. It is also helpful to have a visualization you do before reading. I imagine a light switch, and then a damn breaking, and all the water from my subconscious coming through to my conscious mind. You might want to visualize turning on a faucet, or opening the third eye chakra, or whatever you want, just something that makes sense to you and allows you to focus while letting the Universe know you are connected and ready to receive information.

Friends have sworn by the workbook, “Tarot for Yourself,” by Mary K. Greer. Here’s a link to it: Tarot for Your Self : A Workbook for Personal Transformation Second Edition

Hope that helps!

The next question comes from Steven:

Hi Denise; I was looking at the transits to the USA natal chart; would you please comment regarding the transiting Saturn conjunct natal Neptune and square natal mars? Also on today’s trigger transiting Mars opposite natal financial Venus and transiting Pluto applying opposition to natal financial Venus (mid January to end of March)? I have read on financial astrology sites, that this chart is used also for the US dollar. I would appreciate your insight. kind regards, Steven

Hi Steven,

I’ll post the different US charts here and we can talk about them. There are actually 3 but I’m only going to post 2, because these 2 seem the most significant to me. They are the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution signing. Here they are:

picture-5Looking at both of these charts and the date of 9-29-2008 when we had the -777 plunge, they are both pretty awful but it seems that the Declartion chart describes in greater detail what happened and with more clarity. The fall can be seen in both through different aspects but since the Declaration chart seems to be more in keeping with the financial crisis let’s go ahead and use it to answer your question.

Quite honestly I was hoping that the Signing chart was going to be more accurate because it would be less painful but with all those planets in the 8th house of the financial industry and other people’s money in Cancer at early degrees, Yikes! Pluto is going to make hard core oppositions to this starting around inauguration. To make it worse Pluto which rules this chart will be opposing Venus (money) and in the 8th house.  And then as Pluto progresses it will hit Jupiter, then the Sun and finally Mercury making this period of adjustment a long one.

In terms of transiting Saturn conjuncting natal Neptune that is in the Signing chart and won’t be felt until the fall of 2011. This transit will first trigger a trine to Pluto and then to natal Saturn so it could actually be more related to the re-structuring of the international banking laws for the better and trigger a new power structure in regards to how the global economy works.

However in the Declaration chart Saturn will be making a square to all those Cancer planets starting at the end of November and this could add extra strain on the economy as issues relating to the law and more wall street scandals both come out and are prosecuted. This will also trigger new regulations.

So in regards to your question, “Also on today’s trigger transiting Mars opposite natal financial Venus and transiting Pluto applying opposition to natal financial Venus (mid January to end of March)?” What those astrologers are referring to with transiting Mars is a trigger. It’s Pluto that is doing the major damage but Mars will help it along and kick it off this will happen around the 18/19th of March 2009, also the Moon will be in Cap, adding extra oomph to the whole thing. That could also be a very bad day for the stock market and the value of our money. 

Hope that helped to clarify some of it.

Best wishes to all and many blessings,

Denise

Here’s a link to that blog with the edited more readable version of your sun sign over view if anyone is interested:
http://www.instantriverside.com/riverside-ca-news/what-will-the-new-year-hold-for-you/2008/12/31/

Answering Readers…

Answering Readers’ Questions…

Hi everyone, hope your holiday season is going well. It looks like the downward spiral is happening in the market as predicted, despite the time period which is generally characterstically low in movement either way during the week of solstice or yule, Christmas/Hanukkah. 

I just want to say that I read on some financial blog a reference to a statement I made about gold a while back. From what I could tell at the time via the cards there wasn’t a really strong constant direction up, and despite the fact that people turn to precious metals to invest in during recessions and depression, it didn’t look like it was going to go be a straight shoot upward, which I found confusing.

Anyway, I laughed out loud when someone called me an idiot, or something like that, because I said the market was too volatile at the time of the question to predict. And the person posted something like: that twit obviously knows nothing about the market.

So let me assure you I really do know nothing about the market which I have stated numerous times. All I go on here is astrology and whether things look bad for a company, or a stock, or good. If you ask me questions about anything abstract, or that I don’t have a chart for I can’t answer you because I’m not an economist. I’m a freaky artsy, psychic, astrologer not a business/economist type.

That being said of course people are worried about their money which I’m happy to help with, but with the caveat that everyone knows I am just a psychic and an astrologer. I foresaw the first market crash a couple of weeks before it happened because of my psychic ability, but this was a general, “Get out of the market!” sort of warning that was hammered into my skull from whatever or wherever these things come from. And I picked the word tsunami back then (which later Greenspan used to describe the situation) because it felt like it was going to pull back, and then flood us, not tear us down like a tornado in one fell swoop or shake everything to pieces in a matter of moments like an earthquake.

So here goes with questions. The first is more of a comment from Grace who did some research on the world economy, and I’d like to share her post with everyone:

grace43

The government of Beligum fell this weekend due to the financial crisis and suspected corruption. http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=worldnews&id=20081222-20320

Apparently, those corporate fat cats have learned nothing. AP IMPACT: Wall Street still flying corporate jets

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081221/ap_on_bi_ge/meltdown_corporate_jets

On verge of failure, bank executives collected financial bonanzas, AP study finds

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-executive-bailouts,0,568377.story

This is not just happening in the US. In a few minutes search, I found dozens of articles from around the world where corporate fat cats accepted government money that they insisted they needed to continue operations are now using this money so they can have enormous bonuses and fly around in corporate jets playing golf with one another! These same people time and count their underlings bathroom breaks and dock them an hour’s pay if they are five minutes late! I can’t tell you how angry I feel thinking about this on so many levels. Obviously, it is good to be the king.

Andrew Rumsey

Will Lehman Brothers recover from their Chapter 11 of Title 11 Bankruptcy? Should I hold onto what shares I have and possibly buy more or should I sell my Lehman Brothers shares?

Hey Andrew,

Do you have an incorporation date or a start trading date for this company. I need the date, time and place and I can run a chart and let you know what I find. If you could research that for me I’ll be happy to let you know.

Also there were questions about FAZ, which I will get to later, but in the mean time can anyone explain to me what this is? You don’t need to go into too much detail, just give a basic run down, something to clarify what it is that I’m reading.

OK for now that is all. I have so much to do with the holidays as everyone does and my husband was out of town for two weeks, leaving me alone with a little baby so besides getting sick this past week, I’m way behind on everything.

Have a great holiday week.

Best wishes and many blessings to all of you,

Denise

Answering Readers’ Questions…

Answering Readers, and More About Eris…

hopeandaplan
  Hi Denise, 

I just saw in the news that there was an earthquake in S Carolina, early this morning. I had a thought about the orange garage light experience you had last night. Sometimes when I get signs they are literal. Do you think its somewhere called Orange? Orange county Florida, California, or Orange the city in different areas??? And, Do you think there is anything to worry about with the Soviets doing naval excercises in the waters off of Venezuela? Thanks for keeping up the blog!

Hi Hope and A Plan,

I had wondered about this, it was definitely something one would see in a ghost movie. I remembered as I was falling to sleep having had a dream the night before about an attempted terrorist type of attack, the weapons were mostly machine guns and I think there was an armored car involved. In the dream I was a spy uncovering the scheme. it was a foreign european country. it was night time and I didn’t think that much about it. That was all I remembered of it. It was so odd, that I kind of forgot about it. It’s not often I’m a spy exchanging gun fire in a dream. But I wondered as I was falling asleep the night of the crazy garage light, if perhaps I had blown off a warning dream the night before, and the light was trying to draw my attention to my unconscious.

I’ve noticed as I’ve gotten older (and because of all the migraine and seizure medicine I take now) that I often forget my dreams, and most of my psychic stuff happens while I’m awake, often physical/poltergeist type of manifestations mixed with intense emotional feelings attached to words that circle around in my head for days until I can’t ignore them anymore. Maybe the spirits really have to hit me over the head because I’m either jaded or the medicine I take makes remembering my dreams difficult. Anyway, I thought it was interesting to read the post by you which I have coming up after Better Days Ahead’s comment, about the terrorist attack in France. I’m not surprised by the attempt because as i said there are a bunch of European countries that have Pluto hitting something important in their national chart right now. But France actually doesn’t have anything all that nasty compared to most, so its not surprising the attempt was stopped. In my dream there was gun fire exchanged. And I’m not sure if it was France or Germany or England, it was just a very typical European city. There are parts of all European cities that look the way the dream did. Hopefully this will be it for attempted terrorist attacks for the time being, but I don’t know. I am a little worried that there maybe a bigger broader wider international type of plan coming, something that will involve multiple attacks in many European cities at the same time, and here as well because of this critical degree in cardinal signs seen in so many important and national charts. I really need to study the charts again, but I’ve been so busy as we all have with the holiday and trying to keep away one of my intense migraine’s under control for the past week.

betterdaysahead

  If there’s gonna be a big sell off, it might be lead by a failure to make a loan to the auto industry. Clearly Bush and his folks are against this.

 

Hi Better Days Ahead,

It looked like the American auto industry would survive for the next couple of years and then go under. But there is so much anger about the last bail out which as I said in the posts back before it happened, wasn’t going to go through the first time around when it actually would have helped, but rather a watered down crappy version would pass and do really no good. People have a right to be angry. In my opinion the only reason the bail out happened was to show good faith to the rest of the world — basically to make it look like we were doing something, ANYTHING. But alas, the bail out was so flawed by the time it passed it really was an empty, extremely expensive gesture. Of course though the banking industry is the life blood of the global economy and if we poisoned it, then we were obliged to fix it or risk losing our place in the world economy. We would have been thrown out of the game for being cheaters, which of course, we were, so our government had to make a show of good faith to save face. But they really didn’t get much else accomplished for the money. The auto industry is a very different beast and it will fold our economy into a full swing Depression if it collapses, but we won’t be contaminating the world water supply like we did with the banking scheme. The Republicans don’t really care about saving Joe Normal’s job at GM, and as its turning out they didn’t really care about saving the world economy either, just fattening deals for their peeps. But that’s another story. I can’t say I have a lot of pity for the CEO’s of the American car makers, they’ve been morons. But I do feel for the people who have done their best, and worked hard at their jobs, and now face the potential loss of the life they’ve known.

 

hopeandaplan

Hi Denise,

I woke up with the feeling that everything was shaking and a lot of energy was swirling. I have been sensitive to geo activity. It doesnt need to be local. Of course, all of this might be personal to me… I wonder if this is particularly heightened since I have my Moon at 0 degrees of Capricorn at the nadir, or collective unconscious of my chart?? I just saw that a terrorist attack and asassination attempt were thwarted in France. There was a thwarted terrorist attempt of an Air France flight to LA a couple of years ago. Seems like this time of year is a vulnerable time for France… Take care of yourself…

Hi Hope And A Plan,

There have also been some earth quakes out this way the past few months. There was a pretty big one (5. something) about 4 months ago that we really felt, another out in the desert that was over 6 something, but in a very un-populated area, but it was felt here as well as in Arizona and Nevada. I felt it as a gentle rocking. Then of course some in the mid-west not too long ago. It has made me wonder, seems like there are an awful lot of them all over the place but then again, it seems earthquakes come in swarms and then calm for a while before the next swarm hits.

I would think you’d be very sensitive to both geo activity and the collective unconscious with your moon at 0 degrees Cap and Pluto going over it right now. Pluto does rule mass consciousness, transformation, and of course Capricorn is an earth sign. 

  sparker 

I hope you feel better!!! Many Angels to you!!!
As for the comment I made last night about Eris, after reading it today I am not so sure about how well I conveyed my thoughts. It didn’t come out the way I thought I was conveying it at the time. Hence, I am not a writer! I am also not sure if I was right about her. I had some very weird, and actually not very dreamy, dreams last night about a lot of people being homeless. Not sure if it was Eris visiting me in my sleep or if it the fact that writing that comment was the last thing I did before I went to bed last night. I thought I was being enlightening but, I am not so sure about it today.
But, anyway, FEEL BETTER!! : ) Many Angels to YOU!! 

Hi Sparker,

I’ve been doing more research on Eris. It seems that my hunch about the patriarchal version of her as slanted toward the negative is right. She is much like a trickster, Goddess of chaos and discord. She likes to confuse or as my friend would say she’s a sh*t stir, meaning she likes to get people to think, laugh and is seen (among those who see her as positive) to be a Goddess of creativity through chaos. She also likes to reveal the superficial and make people think. I found a site that extolls Her virtues and have posted some of it here for reference and a link to the site for anyone who wishes to find out more about this Goddess who will ultimately be absorbed into astrology once we figure her out. I’m working on it right now. Here are some excerpts from the site:

Today’s Eris, as is often said by Discordians, shows more of Her mellow aspects, at least to Her ‘co-conspirators’ who sometimes tend to err on the side of attributing to Her every sort of weirdness that intrudes into their lives. Eris is said to be responsible for generating bureaucracies among human societies to both keep the tyrants confused and to keep the intelligent perplexed. She is also here to tell us that, contrary to the religious, spiritual, and theological dogmas of the past centuries, We Are Free. Humankind is not inherently flawed, spiritually blocked, or sinful. Any flaws, blocks, or sins as may exist are entirely our own doing, and as such, they can be overcome, outgrown, or avoided if we decide so.

Eris also represents the active principle of standing up for oneself in the face of exclusion, betrayal, or injustice. In Discordianism, getting ‘even’ is considered a valuable experience in one’s ability to recognize a need for redress without having to rely on so-called authority or parent figures to tell them so. How a Discordian goes about gaining redress is left up to each person. The Myth of the Golden Apple (discussed below) is often cited as a prime example of doing so.

Here’s the post that I took those excerpts about Eris from: http://davensjournal.com/index.htm?eris.xhtml&2

Answering Readers, and More About Eris…

The Stock Market: Answering a Reader’s Question

This question from George is a good one. It is at the bottom of this post for reference.

I have to admit that the feeling I had before the initial crash was intense and urgent. Since then it has been erratic. I picked the end of December into January because this is when Pluto is exactly conjunct the Dow Jones first house. Of course if the date or time was off in that chart (which is always possible) then we could have seen the hit at 0 degree instead of the 1 degree in the official chart. 

The other manifestation of Pluto going over the first house is the exposure of corruption, scandals, abuse of power and scams that could hamper investment in the market out of fear. We’ve started seeing this with the most recent news of the ex-head of NASDAQ taking rich investors for an estimated 50 billion dollars. Pluto will uncover more of this sort of thing, it may or may not lead to another crash, but it will definitely transform the way the markets are ultimately allowed to do business.

In the next 10-15 years the  market will go through such major transformations economists/brokers/bankers and financial people won’t recognize it as the same entity it once was. I think we will see instability for a long time as the market re-organizes, and gets restructured under Pluto’s influence. Which means during this long period we may see wild fluctuations as new things become uncovered, and new laws are put in place to shore up the bleeding. 

It’s my feeling that we are still in the midst of this crisis, and haven’t seen the worst of it, but it will turn around over the next couple of years. In terms of the bottoming out, if I were looking just at the aspects I’d have to say as an astrologer that the worst still will be the end of December into January when Pluto hits that 1 degree mark. And again when Pluto retrogrades back to that point at different points in 2009. However, as a psychic, I also know that charts are not always 100 accurate, so timing isn’t always exact because of this, and the intense urgency about the market I felt back in September has abated. I’m not sure if this is because we’re already in it, and I’ve gotten used to the energy, or if we really have seen the biggest drop we’re going to feel by comparison of where it was to begin with.

I do feel however, that we haven’t seen the end of companies going under, and the market dropping and being very erratic which is why for those of us who are not incredibly market savvy, it is still best to wait it out. I’d give it at least a couple of years to stabilize.

It’s been my intuition for a number of years now that there is a lot of criminal activity taking place in the stock market and I feel the uncovering of this is part of Pluto going over the first house of the Dow. I mentioned this in earlier posts. I feel we are entering into this phase of Pluto now where a lot of dirty tricks, insider trading, corruption and scams are exposed. Pluto is going to clean house, and while this is good in the long run, it will disrupt people’s faith in the market, and bring down value substantially. 

So to summarize: We are still in the middle of the bleeding. Criminal activity regarding the market will continue to come to light. The market will undergo tremendous change over the next decade. It won’t really be “safe” for normal people to invest in the market for a few years when it begins to stabilize again. More companies are going to go under. The overall value of the market is going to go down. We are headed into a different sort of depression then the 30s, but still it will be a depression. There will be international market, and banking laws put into place over the next decade, and the world will become even more intricately connected as one economy, with one set of rules we all have to abide by. After a few years of changes people will get used to the Pluto energy, and begin to understand the new flow of the market, and it will turn around for the better, and start to build more value again.

This new depression will be somewhere between the recession we felt of the 70s, and the 30s, but on a global scale. It won’t be barrels full of money to buy bread, but there will be tremendous unemployment and people having to change their lifestyles dramatically in some cases to get through this time. I also feel that the length and severity of this depression/recession has been greatly reduced by the election of Obama. His chart compared to that of the US constitution signing, and the Dow, and NASDAQ are good. Most of his energy regarding the markets will be spent in re-structuring them for the future good of the world’s economy. 

I hope I’ve made sense and this is helpful. If you want anymore clarification just let me know. 

Here is George’s question:

George

  Hi Denise,  

Do you still think that US stock markets will crash during December and January? It is interesting if you see anything new. Can you please share with us.

Thanks,
George

The Stock Market: Answering a Reader’s Question

Answering Readers…

Hi all, I’m currently working on deconstructing the dwarf planets — Pluto being one of them, the one wreaking havoc right now. So of course I wanted to address Farah’s comment, which is here:

 farah


Eris’s original nickname was Xena and I think that that is the name that should have remained. The symbolic energy surrounding Xena mythologically speaking (even though Xena is a modern invention) is much higher and more positive than the concept of a goddess of discord and strife.

Hi Farah,

Xena was the dwarf planet’s nickname while Mike Brown decided on a mythological name. At the time I e-mailed him back in 03, I didn’t realize there was a rule that heavenly bodies had to be named after ancient God/Goddesses. I actually wrote to him begging him not to name the planet something stupid, and to pick a Goddess as there are so few represented. I had one in mind, but unfortunately the name was already taken.

I agree that the Goddess of discord and strife is pretty negative, and I wish he hadn’t named this very large “dwarf planet,” after a Goddess that was supposed to love the sight of human blood being spilled.

She is actually the sister of Aries, another warrior God. She’s pretty gnarly. And we’ll have to see how she plays out over the coming years. Right now Eris is at 21 degrees Aries. And Eris has been in Aries starting way back in 1924, so you see she is very slow moving. It takes about a century for her to change signs, so perhaps we will see a corrolation between her energy, and that of the century, in which case we are still lingering in the 20th and haven’t quite made it to the next level. Interesting to note when Eris was in Pisces it was during the enlightenment, and when in Aries: it was the age of self-realization, modern art, the sexual revolution, and a general push toward exploring the self (also the “Me” generation fits squarely in the center of her reign.)

Let’s hope Eris was unfairly named, and perhaps is more about the general color of the mass consciousness, perhaps the deep dark id-like side of humanity, or the life blood of a century rather than just her horrible reputation as being a viscious death mongering blood letting, cold, malacontent, Goddess of chaos.

I wonder if perhaps her story, and her attributes changed over time as the Greeks became more patriarchal. This is a common theme, demonizing Goddesses as a culture turns from the feminine aspects of God for political reasons to support the new patriarchal system, and thereby changes the attributes of a Goddess. This was also done in the bible where several demons were actually, at one time, Goddesses and Gods that the ancient Jews worshipped before becoming monotheistic. It’s a common political-religious tool to frighten people into a new belief system that enforces a new political structure.

Louis


Thank you Denise for your advice on Minara Resources, MRE, The company was born in Perth, Western Australia not Sydney, Australia despite this, the reading was accurate in that they were doing very well in 2006. Would this have much affect on the overall accuracy of the astrological reading? When I read and re -read some of your answers to our questions there is a thread throughout that somehow gives me faith and peace (something I haven’t had recently) that the worlds economy wont end but transform, even though our foundations, our basic security is under threat, and there will be massive changes and challenges to come, there is a larger picture that is ultimately for the good. At the end of the day materialism isn’t what it is made out to be and can often create so much misery as seen in our Western worlds. My gratitude to you for helping me see this.
Louis
 

Hi Louis,

The timing would be slightly off with a city change, but the basic chart would be the same. Also if this stock is traded in Sydney then it would likely take on the timing of Sydney. 

I’m very glad i could help you feel better during this period. These are growing pains and if we all stay involved and demand our world become a better place, it will be.
Best wishes to all of you and many blessings,

Denise

Answering Readers…

Answering Readers…

More questions from readers. The first from Cathy:

 

Cathy

Denise, Thank you for the charts on Boeings. Here is some info on Airbus that I found -Airbus Industrie was formally established as a Groupement d’Interet Economique (Economic Interest Group or GIE) on 18 December 1970.
2000 three of the four partner companies (DaimlerChrysler Aerospace, successor to Deutsche Airbus; Aérospatiale-Matra, successor to Sud-Aviation; and CASA) merged to form EADS. If this doesn’t help – I’ll keep searching but I appreciate your efforts of trying. Happy Thanksgiving to you!

Hi Cathy,

I was about to run a chart when I realized I wasn’t sure which market Airbus was traded on because I think its a European company? And if this date you gave was the start trading date or the inception date or incorporation date, so let me know what more you dig up so I can run a chart. Sorry about that for now.

Id

Dear Denise,

Thank you for your analysis and insights. In these troubled times on a lot of fronts ( financial, physical and even spiritual ) you provide clarity and hope.

I have two questions.

1 – Urban survival. In which timeframes do you see possible shortages of food and basic necessaties?
2 – When will the dollar downtrend and demise commence?

To readers of this blog, please do google “urban survival” and make some basic preparations.

Peace

Hi Id,

It’s funny to write that, it’s like I’m writing to a part of myself. Jokes aside, I’ve given this a lot of thought. I think your suggestion to google urban survival is a good one. It’s always good to be prepared. That being said, I’m not getting the feeling we are going to see the economy drive us to the point of the things our grandparents and great grandparents went through. I’m not feeling it’s going to get that bad now. I feel there is a safety net being built that will cushion the blow and we are going to have to change our ways, but its not going to get to that extreme. I asked the cards if we will see the economy drive us to extremes and the cards said very emphatically, No. That’s not to say they don’t tell of hard times, anxiety, and major changes.

However, your point about urban survival should really be taken in terms of natural disasters. I live in earthquake country. Everyone lives somewhere that could be devastated by a major flood, drought, hurricane, tornado or earthquake. And I do feel that environmental problems of that kind are going to continue to spiral out of control, and we all need to be prepared for that.

My biggest fear right now is that the economy will defocus us from the real problem, and that is the environment. It doesn’t matter how many gold bars you have hidden under your sofa if your house is floating down a river. That’s kind of the situation we’re in. Believe it or not, this crisis has helped to focus us on the big picture to some extent, but its still not big picture enough. We need to go wider, broader. We are literally going to kill this planet — leave it barren, if we continue down this path.

As a teenager (back in the 80s) I made a disturbed illustrated children’s book about these little bugs who were slowly eating away their host. Great idea for a kids book, huh? It was of course a metaphor for us killing the planet. I told a much older hippy type friend about this, and he said, “That’s just egotistical, man. The earth is so much bigger then us, it can survive anything.”

And I said, “Have you ever heard of cancer? It starts out as one cell and multiplies until it destroys everything.”

Anyway, of course he thought I was nuts way back in the 1980s when I mentioned us destroying the planet. But I could feel it, and we were and are. My worst fear is we’ve waited too long to do anything about it. We have to make this our number one priority, seriously. Once we get things back on track, if we don’t use everything and do everything possible to solve global cancer (warming sounds like a vacation) then we’re all going to parish and there won’t be any future of our race.

Wei

Hi Denise:
Great postings!
Wondering about Citicorp (c). I think you ran a chart, but I didn’t find the interpretation for it. Given recent bail outs, will it survive?
If you have time, I am wondering about US Steel (x) and Freeport-McMoRan Copper and Gold, Inc (FCX), Google (GOOG), Intel (INTC), Foster Wheeler Ltd. (FWLT), Procter & Gamble (PG), and Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corporation (BNI).
Many Thanks,
Wei

Hi Wei,

I didn’t have Google, Foster Wheeler, Burlington or Freeport-McMoRan in my database. And of course had multiples of the other stocks you were interested in. I’ll post them and do some analysis. In the mean time if you want me to look into those not represented, post the incorporation date or the start trading date of these company’s where they are traded and I’ll run charts on them. Here goes:

picture-15picture-16picture-17picture-19OK, I don’t know if Citicorp has officially gone under yet, but they will or they will be absorbed by another company completely by February 09 when transiting Neptune in Aquarius makes an exact square form their first house to Neptune in Scorpio in their 10th. They have been seriously deluding themselves. Also Pluto is going through the company’s 12th house and making an applying square to their Saturn in the second. They’ve been keeping secrets, and if they do get absorbed by another company, whoever takes them on will be hit with a necessary and very brutal restructuring in order to save what’s left which would take place in March of 2010. This lapse in time will probably be because the company has been hiding a lot and it will take time to sort out all the mess.

US Steel doesn’t look bad, there are some good aspects and some slightly negative things but nothing major. They may have some foreign issues, but nothing major. They will also do pretty well over this period. My grandmother used to work for US Steel when they had a manufacturing plant in Gary, Indiana. She made steel during the 30-60s. Pretty crazy, she had all sorts of scars along her arms from where she had been cut accidentally from the steel in the plant.

Intel has that critical O degrees Pluto in Libra dancing in its 11th house. It should be getting hammered in the stock market right now. But things will get better for them in late January when Pluto hits 2 Cap and trines the part of fortune in the 10th. This stock and/or company is going to go through some major changes over the next 15 years, if it can survive these changes it is going to do amazingly well and probably be one of those long term blue chip type of stocks. But its going to go through a lot.

Once Pluto stops squaring Proctor and Gamble’s Mercury in Libra at 0 degrees in the 12th house in January this company will do well. Much better then most. There are a lot of positive transits being made to both charts. I suppose they survived a Depression and a couple of recessions, so they know how to deal with down markets. They will actually do quite well throughout the next few years, which is all I looked at so…

I’m tired now. I’ll answer the rest of you all tomorrow!

Best wishes and many blessings,

Denise

KRG

Hi : Very interesting

On the prediction that India will hit Pak sites, I wonder whether this could happen thru US, becos it seems more likely that Obama will use his power to persuade Pak to let US take on the training camps etc in Pak. Don’t see India doing this unless we continue to get hit like 26/11. May be you could run a chart for US vis-a-vis Pak and see how it looks…

Truthseeker

I woke up with the feeling that the credit crisis wasnt the cause of the market crash at the end of Dec/ Jan

northernlights2008

Any thoughts on the two unresolved Senate races in Minnesota and Georgia? I think you predicted the Senate would get close to 60 seats a few weeks back. I wonder what the cards say closer to the evantual realities. Thanks!

Iris

Another question. Some of Obama’s supporters are up in arms about the people he is choosing to work in his Administration. They feel that they have been betrayed. Will the Disgruntled Dems. get over it in time or will they hold a grudge for the next 4 years?

Thanks! -)

grace43

Will Arnold Schwartzenegger be joining Obama’s cabniet? I thought when Obama said a top Republican would be on his cabniet, it would be Arnie. Now he’s picked Gates to stay on as Sec. of Defense. Since some very conservative Christians are in top level positions in the military, this seems to be a wise move aimed at keeping them calm. What’s up for the Governator after his term runs out?

Here’s his birth information: 30 July 1947, Thal, Styria, Austria (Taken from his bio on Internet Movie Database)
Birth Time: 04:10 (04:10 AM) MEDT(-1:00) (taken from Lois Rodden’s AstroDatabankhttp://www.astrodatabank.com/nm/SchwarzeneggerArnold.htm )

Thanks in advance!

PS

I sure hope he will be. After four years of having to look at Bush and Cheney, this lady would appreciate someone up there easier on the eyes. LOL

Answering Readers…

Answering Readers…

Hi Everyone,

There are a lot of questions about stocks and the economy, so that will be the bulk of tonight, but I’m trying to mix it up a little so it’s not soooo much about that. So here goes. The first question comes from Jean.

Jean

Hi Denise,

You asked for more information on the mutual funds I inquired about.
MEURX – Mutual European (Z fund) – Fund inception date is 7/3/1996
MDISX – Mutual Discovery (Z fund) – Fund inception date is 12/31/1992
I don’t know if this matters or not, but in November 1996, Heine Securities Corporation, known for the Mutual Series of funds, merged into the Franklin Templeton complex.

Thanks.

Hi Jean,

Here are the charts of both funds analysis to follow:

picture-14

It looks like MEURX will really be hit hard when transiting Pluto through the 5th (house of speculation) makes an exact opposition to its Mercury in Cancer in the 11th (house of hopes and dreams). Also Mercury rules the second house of work and everyday sort of money flow, as well as ruling 2 planet, Venus=money(in this case) and Mars how the fund is perceived. They are both wedged in the 10th which is also another important earth/money house. I would move my money into a different fund if I were you before late January. Specifically right around inauguration. So move it before then.

MDISX will fair better until about the 20th of January 2010 when transiting Pluto will be at 4 Cap making an exact square to the funds moon which has involvement in the 5th house of speculation but mostly rules the 6th house. So I’d guess there will be some bizarre fluctuations in the value of the fund during this time, sort of irrational in nature. But it will settle down and it won’t see major changes until Jan. 2010 when perhaps new laws will take place forcing (more then likely many areas of the market) to adjust. It will be more in its business practices and ideology. So I’d say this fund looks healthier for the time being.

Hope that helped.

Next from Ylem:

ylem

Okay, this scared the crap out of me:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/02/terror.report/index.html

Do you have anything to say on the likelihood of a bioterror attack in the next 10 years (or much sooner) that will wipe out millions of people?

I’m freaked!

ylem

just to add to my post: The fear of a bioterror attack is in some ways paralyzing, as it makes working towards anything feel pointless – what’s the use if our world will be in ruins in less than five years? Give us some hope, please!

Hi Ylem,

I read the article you sent a link to. It is really, really, really scary. 

I have been thinking about this a lot lately, especially with what happened in Mumbai. And especially when looking at the charts of India and Pakistan, and seeing the upcoming transits over the next few years, and the direction the planets are headed.

I got scared when I realized that we weren’t that far off from Uranus hitting Aries. That revelation felt very bad. 

Uranus smacks Aries in March of 2011. My read on this is: sudden and explosive violence. Especially, as it will near a square to Pluto. These two warring planets will clash (square each other exactly) in August of 2012. We had better get our act together rounding up terrorists and spreading good will and compassion. I hate to say what this could bring. I will do more analysis on it over time. I don’t want to jump to conclusions right now. We have time to turn this potentially deadly aspect into something more innocuous, but it will be a hard ship to turn around. I’m not going to lie about that.

Good news though, we do have free will and we have the power to choose love and compassion, kindness and fairness over whatever crazy bee drove into those terrorists’ types heads. Sometimes I feel there is an almost sick sexual fetishism of murder really driving these people, more than any pretended belief they have in God. Because I’ll say one thing no one who is spiritual believes in killing anyone for any reason. And any religion or branch of a religion that preaches this is not a religion, its a political power machine using naive people to brainwash through fear so they can do the dirty work of those leaders who manipulate them and blindly seek power.

OK, enough of my going on about that. It makes me so angry. I wish there was a way to round up all the terrorists and make them sit around a campfire and listen to Kumbayah for a year, do some knitting, talk about their feelings, go through some therapy and deprogram them from their crazy- maker leaders. Most of these people are young men who have no way to feel important, and aren’t allowed to express their sensuality or sexuality except through this horrible violence. It’s a terribly sick combination. A stew of rotten meat, and I’m afraid we’ve all been guilty of not addressing it. I think the whole, “Well, it’s a cultural thing,” thing is part of the problem. Not that we should take control of their lives. I do think these groups pray on very impoverished, angry, probably abused souls who haven’t seen any other option in life. We owe it to all of our brothers and sisters to at least show them that there are other ways of seeing, believing, feeling, and help them live in dignity, not just ignore them, relegating them to deserts of the world to starve in, while we live it up. It’s no wonder they hate us. We are so decadent compared to them.

I really hope instead of bombing Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iraq and trying to control the Muslim world militarily, we try to lift them up and befriend them. That’s the only way we are going to make this world work.

Blah, blah, blah…

OK, power speech: this is why it is crucial for everyone to live up to their highest potential and do whatever little thing you can to change the hearts and minds of those around you for the better.  

If you imagine we are all drops of water in this sea of humanity, (check out the book, “The Messages in Water,” if you get a chance) and by being more loving and kind we actually effect the whole sea. We don’t have to become President or be a famous movie star or whatever, just being loving changes the world for the better.

Anyway, it’s 4 AM now I’m going to answer the next bunch of questions tomorrow.

Best wishes to all.

Denise

Sorry everyone down there! I’ll get to you soon!

Cathy

Denise, Thank you for the charts on Boeings. Here is some info on Airbus that I found -Airbus Industrie was formally established as a Groupement d’Interet Economique (Economic Interest Group or GIE) on 18 December 1970.
2000 three of the four partner companies (DaimlerChrysler Aerospace, successor to Deutsche Airbus; Aérospatiale-Matra, successor to Sud-Aviation; and CASA) merged to form EADS. If this doesn’t help – I’ll keep searching but I appreciate your efforts of trying. Happy Thanksgiving to you!

Id

Dear Denise,

Thank you for your analysis and insights. In these troubled times on a lot of fronts ( financial, physical and even spiritual ) you provide clarity and hope.

I have two questions.

1 – Urban survival. In which timeframes do you see possible shortages of food and basic necessaties?
2 – When will the dollar downtrend and demise commence?

To readers of this blog, please do google “urban survival” and make some basic preparations.

Peace

Wei

Hi Denise:
Great postings!
Wondering about Citicorp (c). I think you ran a chart, but I didn’t find the interpretation for it. Given recent bail outs, will it survive?
If you have time, I am wondering about US Steel (x) and Freeport-McMoRan Copper and Gold, Inc (FCX), Google (GOOG), Intel (INTC), Foster Wheeler Ltd. (FWLT), Procter & Gamble (PG), and Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corporation (BNI).
Many Thanks,
Wei

 

KRG

Hi : Very interesting

On the prediction that India will hit Pak sites, I wonder whether this could happen thru US, becos it seems more likely that Obama will use his power to persuade Pak to let US take on the training camps etc in Pak. Don’t see India doing this unless we continue to get hit like 26/11. May be you could run a chart for US vis-a-vis Pak and see how it looks…

 

Truthseeker

I woke up with the feeling that the credit crisis wasnt the cause of the market crash at the end of Dec/ Jan

northernlights2008

Any thoughts on the two unresolved Senate races in Minnesota and Georgia? I think you predicted the Senate would get close to 60 seats a few weeks back. I wonder what the cards say closer to the evantual realities. Thanks!

Iris

Another question. Some of Obama’s supporters are up in arms about the people he is choosing to work in his Administration. They feel that they have been betrayed. Will the Disgruntled Dems. get over it in time or will they hold a grudge for the next 4 years?

 

Thanks! -)

 

grace43

 

 

Will Arnold Schwartzenegger be joining Obama’s cabniet? I thought when Obama said a top Republican would be on his cabniet, it would be Arnie. Now he’s picked Gates to stay on as Sec. of Defense. Since some very conservative Christians are in top level positions in the military, this seems to be a wise move aimed at keeping them calm. What’s up for the Governator after his term runs out?

Here’s his birth information: 30 July 1947, Thal, Styria, Austria (Taken from his bio on Internet Movie Database)
Birth Time: 04:10 (04:10 AM) MEDT(-1:00) (taken from Lois Rodden’s AstroDatabankhttp://www.astrodatabank.com/nm/SchwarzeneggerArnold.htm )

Thanks in advance!

PS

I sure hope he will be. After four years of having to look at Bush and Cheney, this lady would appreciate someone up there easier on the eyes. LOL

Answering Readers…

NIFTY: India’s Stock Market: Chart and Analysis

I’m dedicating this entire post to Malayali’s question of what the future holds for NIFTY.  Malayali has been very patient and done a lot of research to bring insight into the stock market side of what is going on in India. 

Let me remind everyone again, I’m not a financial person, just a monkey with an ephemeris, tarot cards, computer and some astrology charts. So try to bare with me.

Here is an explanation from Malayali on what NIFTY is and then the chart and analysis will follow.

 

malayali

Hi Denise, thanks for your humble reply. With lot of respect… here are some details regarding NIFTY. The National Stock Exchange of India Limited or S&P CNX NIFTY (NSE), is a Mumbai based stock exchange. It is the largest stock exchange in India in terms of daily turnover and number of trades, of both equities & derivative trading. NSE is also the third largest stock exchange in the world in terms of number of trades in equities. Though a number of other exchanges exist, NSE and the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE) are the two major significant stock exchange in India, and between them are responsible for the vast majority of share transations. The NSE’s key index is the S&P CNX NIFTY, known as Nifty, an index of 50 major stocks weighted by market capitalisation. The Standard & Poor’s CRISIL NSE Index 50 or S&P CNX Nifty nicknamed Nifty 50 or simply Nifty. The Nifty is a well diversified 50 stocks index accounting for 21 sectors of the economy and is the list of bluechip stocks listed on National Stock Exchange of India (NSE) (nseindia.com). Nifty is used for variety of purposes, often used as the benchmark of trading the health of the Indian Stock Markets, and also used for benchmarking fund portfolios, index based derivatives and indux funds. Nifty 50 Index started with a base value of 1000 on November 3rd, 1995. I hope you won’t disappoint your friend. I believe, that your predictions will hit the desired targets. Expecting your valuable advice & comments on NIFTY….. your friend, fan & believer….. malayali….. (Life’s Highest Value of NIFTY Index = 6357.10 dated 27th November, 2008) & (Current Value of NIFTY Index = 2752.25 dated 26th November, 2009). But today, 27 th November, 2009….. both NSE & BSE is closed due to the terror atacks on Mumbai. For more details & NIFTY charts, log on to : nseindia.com

BIG correction : (Life’s Highest Value of NIFTY Index = 6357.10 dated 8th january, 2008) & (Current Value of NIFTY Index = 2752.25 dated 26th November, 2008). But today, 27th November 2008….. both NSE & BSE is closed due to the terror attacks on Mumbai. For more details & NIFTY charts, log on to : nseindia.com. I’m sorry,… typing mistake, malayali…

After searching the Historical Index Charts of NIFTY (nseindia.com)… the start date of NIFTY is on 3rd July, 1990 = 279.02 (Index Closing Value). Each day, Nifty Index trading starts from 09.55 A.M to 03.30 P.M (Monday to Friday). Life’s Highest Value of NIFTY Index = 6357.10 dated 8th January, 2008. Current Closing Value of NIFTY Index = 2755.10 dated last Friday, 28th November 2008. Denis Siegel….. you are great…… mind-blowing…… & simply superb. Your true friend & follower….. Malayali

 

picture-113OK, here goes. 

The information Malayali gave will hopefully help those of you who are more familiar with how markets work. Again, I’m just an a psychic and an astrologer so I’m just going to go with my intiution and what the stars point out.

It’s interesting to me to see how the problems in this market are manifested very differently then in the Dow Jones or NASDAQ charts. It is Jupiter in Capricorn going through the 5th house (of speculation, Jupiter = foreigners) conjuncting the stellium there and opposing the stellium in the 11th house. I know in Vedic astrology Jupiter is the great beneficent and Saturn the great Malific and in this case Jupiter is opposing itself and later conjuncting Saturn (also in Vedic astrology there is no use of the outer planets, Pluto, Uranus or Neptune.)

Basically, this means that it is foreign markets making investors nervous and causing a see-saw effect; this aspect would have been felt strongly during our crash at the end of October, but would have been felt as early as January of 08 when there may have been technology jobs lost in India for some reason, and feelings among astute investors that something didn’t seem right. This little period of instability would have gone on until mid-late February of 2008 and then there would have been a period when investors would have felt safer again, and been lulled back into complicity. The big wake up call being this fall.

The good news for NIFTY is this market is very strong, and really its the global market that is causing problems here, right now. Those problems will get worked on, even fixed over the next few years. It’s not until February of 2011 that there will be unexpected, out of the blue troubles, mostly again with the work force, and more then likely with technology jobs. This will cause a big adjustment in the market at the time and by May of 2012 will very likely lead to value being lost in the market, especially companies that deal in technology, communication or communication related jobs. I wonder if this will be because laws will be passed in the US giving domestic companies greater incentive to hire US citizens instead of outsourcing these types of technology related and communication related jobs to India, reversing the current trend. So watch for that in the next four years.

This will be the start of a major adjustment of the NIFTY. And will be when NIFTY will have its version of what we are seeing here in the US, but I’m sure not to this extent because by then there will be even more laws in place protecting the world markets, but still, there will be a tremendous amount of Pluto aspects going on, so you will see this market restructured starting with this out of the blue crisis in 2011 and then some major restructuring starting in December of 2013, and later some big losses for investors about a year later when Pluto conjuncts Neptune exactly in the 5th house of speculation. So I would say to anyone at that time, pull your money out well before that time, and put it in something safe or in another market until this market goes through its period of adjustment.

It will have one very bad last readjusment when Pluto conjuncts NIFTY’s Saturn in the 5th house and square’s NIFTY’s Mars in the 8th from about 2019-2020. This could be a much bigger problem for India, I’m going to look at India’s chart and post it right now. Here’s the chart of India:

india2
Based on this, I’d say there will be some sort of a global crisis. It could be the climate crisis, a major famine or drought or natural disaster, something that will impact everyone and make trade, business and the economy seem very small by comparison. That being said, I hope I’m very wrong.

Hope I have shed some light on NIFTY. If you have a specific question, something I could ask the tarot in a yes/no spread, then please feel free to post it and I will answer it as soon as I can.

Best wishes to all and many blessing to you,

Denise

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More questions! I’ll get to as many as I can tonight and the rest over the next couple of days.

 

awesome888

Hi Denise,
Thanks for the reply. In regard to further info,
OZ Minerals is a merger between 2 companies – Oxiana and Zinifex.
The name OZ Minerals was approved by share holders on 18 July 2008 and started trading under that name on 23 July 2008. Hope this is sufficient info.

God Bless

Gurdeep

Hi Gurdeep,

Thanks for the info. Here is Oz Mineral’s founding chart:

oz-minerals1Here is their trading chart:

oz-mineral-trading-chartThe first chart I can’t be sure of the time, I used the start trading time of Australian Stock Exchange so I’m going to go on the second chart which will be more accurate and also be more appropriate as it will apply to those people who own stock in this company.

I would say there will be losses as Neptune returns to 23 degrees Aquarius in the 5th house in February of 09 but then as Uranus hits Mercury in the company’s 10th in March of 09 and trines natal Uranus and the Moon in the company’s 6th house there unexpected productivity which will lead to unexpected profits especially seen about a year later in April of 2010 when this aspects completes itself with a trine to the part of fortune in the 8th (investors). That will also be when (more toward the end of April but still, very close) when Mars will hit the company’s Venus (ruler of the 8th) and Neptune will be out of the 5th house of speculation and making an applying sextile to Pluto in the 3rd house from the 6th, which means there could be loss of some jobs as the company relocates or opens up another division somewhere else and lets some people go in the process, but it’s not a huge loss of jobs or anything. If you’re going to sell I’d wait until that period of time, it looks much better at that time. This stock will rebound and you will very likely regain any losses or make money if you wait it out until then.

Next from Barry:

 

barry

For the people that have taken your advise and sold stocks and went to cash this year, when do you adivse investing again? I have a lot of cash in a money market fund in my 401k waiting to do this. I have a choice of 2 US domestic bond funds, 1 foreign fund and several US domestic stock funds. What would you invest in and when would you start? Thanks for doing this.

Hi Barry,

I can’t give you a logical answer like an investment person would only an intuitive one. Personally, I would wait until at least March of 2011 when Uranus moves out of Pisces and into Aries. Things will be more hopeful, and there will be much more market confidence in certain areas by then. But I have a caveat, Pluto will be going through Capricorn (which rules business, major corporations and markets) until 2024 and Neptune through Pisces until about 2025, which means we are going to see the end of business, capitalism and the markets as we have known them.

There is going to be major restructuring throughout the next (nearly) 20 years. And this will be on a global scale. You will have to really educate yourself not just the history of the markets, and any funds you are interested in, but you will also have to be able to follow all the nuisances, and changes that will be perpetually coming.

I know some financial people are saying there won’t be a depression, others are saying it will be the worst depression we’ve ever known. But truly, I don’t think either are correct. This is going to be a period unlike anything we’ve seen. I don’t feel it will resemble the 30s except on the very surface. I have a feeling the world will work together to solve this crisis as I’ve posted long before there was any talks of this or foreign leaders coming together, etc.

There will be a period of adjustment and I don’t think financial people really have a clue just how radically things are going to end up changing. As I’ve said before I feel there will be international laws put into place not just regarding lending, but on trading as well, the markets will somehow be tied together in a new way, and instead of this hodge podge of pieces there will be a uniting off all markets into a truly global economy. But this will take many years, and happen piece by piece.

So to better answer your question, please post or e-mail me (so you can remain anonymous if you wish) specific funds and a time frame so I can do a yes/no spread about them. The trend here I’m seeing is too big, and wide, that I can’t see the trees inside this forest unless you point them out.

Also a shout out to anyone who has some advice on foreign and domestic funds, perhaps a break down of what’s positive and negative to help out Barry and all other readers. I’m a psychic/artsy fartsy type I’m not a hedge fund manager so I can’t logically answer this question it’s too broad for me. Give me something I can do a chart on or a tarot reading about!

 

Ninja

Dear Denise,

you are awesome. Thanks for taking the time and write to us all.

I am holding stock from the company AUY. Do you see the price going back up to between 10 to 30?

Thanks a lot,

keep up the great work,

Ninja

Hi Ninja,

I’m mental with the stock symbols. Can you please post the name of the company and if you have the date it started trading and where that would be ideal, in case I don’t have it in my database.

Sorry about that for now, but I will answer you when I can run a chart. Or if you have a specific yes/no question I can do that, too.

 

Hopeandaplan

Hi Denise,
I thought you and everyone would find this article/interview interesting. The financial strategists mention that around Valentines Day as the potential bottom of the market. This coincides with everything you’ve been saying about the first wave of the worst ending late January of next year. Thanks to everyone who shares their thoughts and of course, Denise who shares her insight, gift and wit. I look forward to you all every day.

“Pros Say: No Market Bottom ’til Valentines Day
The Big 3 U.S. automakers may have reached a bailout compromise Thursday – or not. Citigroup shares hover near $5, even after mega-investor Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal said he’d boost his Citi stake to 5 percent. Strategists told CNBC to expect more volatility – and no bottom for months yet.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/27824439/ “

Thanks for the information Hope and a Plan!

 

Chris

Denise: Will there be a bailout for the American public or are lawmakers going to continue down the wrong path of bailing out their business buddies?

These stimulus packages Obama wants aren’t designed well enough. Because my business pays almost nothing in taxes due to our HUGE equipment write-offs, I’m not provided any of the stimulus.

Just curious if this bailout madness is going to either stop or come to who really needs it?

Thanks!!!

 

P.S. LOVE your blog. Don’t stop! Wish I could afford your private readings… )

Hi Chris,

This is an excellent question! It seems like the country has cancer of the eyeball and they are doing radiation on our femur. It’s kind of insane. I’m hopeful that it will get better with the new administration, but lets see what the cards say.

I asked if the new administration would focus on bailing out the people instead of big corporations. 

The answer: No.

But it’s not as bad as it seems. There will be change and much more help to those who need it. But it won’t be as much as many would like or think is necessary. The problem is they will keep trying to bail out companies to “save jobs” but they will also most likely extend unemployment benefits, pass health-care reform and also try to help people keep their homes, stuff like that, but by comparison it really won’t be commensurate with what they are doing for these big businesses that have been mismanaged, and deserve to go the way of the dodo for their idiocy and overpaid moronic CEOs. The money they spend bailing these companies out (which in my opinion those CEOs should have to sell all their assets off first and live like normal human beings if they ran their company into the ground, then they should loose their jobs and have to worry about money like anyone else does) would be better spent on education and on restructuring these companies. 

I don’t know if anyone saw Michael Moore on Larry King tonight, but he had a great idea; basically bail out the car companies, but take them over, kick out their management, and have them producing hybrids, mass transit vehicles, and cars that run on everything other than gas. I guess FDR took over the automotive industry when he came into office, and had them manufacturing airplanes, tanks, etc. for the war effort. Moore felt the government should take over the companies if they’re going to give them 25 billion, and make them help solve our reliance on oil in the process.

Moore was of the same split mind as most of us. These auto makers have been refusing to make good quality desirable products for the past 30 years, and now they want a hand out! It’s despicable and causes an immediate gag reflex before the repercussions of their failure hit the conscious mind. Moore had a good point. If these jobs go under there will be a huge ripple effect. And we can’t afford millions more jobs lost. So maybe socializing the auto industry not just by giving them money, but by actually making them do something productive would be a way out of the mess.

I doubt, however, this sort of strategy will be enforced. I’m sure this bail out will happen before the Obama administration gets in, and it maybe too late for the Obama administration to implement that idea depending on how the deal goes down. Let’s hope for all our sake congress uses their collective brain cell to figure this one out before signing off on our money like they did last time.

The second bail out package shouldn’t have happened, it did no good! The first one I believe would have made a difference, but so much was compromised, and ruined trying to get the Republicans on board that the bill was castrated. The only good that bill did was restoring a little faith that our government had a desire to solve the mess our country created. I think it bought us a little bit of diplomacy and that’s about it.

These questions will be answered over the next couple of days!

Best wishes and many blessings to all,

Denise

 

patrick

if Hillary becomes the Sec. State, hopefully she will not be excessively distracted by outside drama or personal career plans, etc.

 

Tobe

Hi Denise,

thanks so much for your blogs. I really enjoy coming back here. You have predicted a stock market “Tsunami” for December. Things are so extremely bad already… how much worse can it get…? Do you see the Dow Jones Index going below 6000 in December…? Also, do you expect Deflation or Inflation in 2009? Are they going to print so much money that the dollar becomes completely worthless and we will finally need a new currency, or o you see the dollar getting stronger, like right now?

Thanks a lot in advance,
your advice is truly appreciated!

 

Marie

Thank you in advance for answering my question.

If Obama chooses Hillary for the Sec of State job, will she be a team player and represent him to well or will she be a disappointment to Obama?

Will Gov. Richardson be offered a position in the Obama Administration?

wingsofgrey

Do you think that your dream with Chicago as a target, has any connection to the 2016 bid for Chicago Olympics? Considering that Atlanta was a target, it doesnt seem to unlikely that another Olympics in the US could be a target.

Tina

Hi, Denise–

What a gift this is! Aquarian breadth with Piscean depth taking on all the issues of our times. I truly hope you’ll pursue publishing this. I can’t be the only one needing this vision, this hope, and this inspiration.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Yours,

Tina

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ArthurThe savings account component of my eTrade account is FDIC insured or at least they have the little FDIC logo there.

barry

Hello again. Here is a unique question. When within the next 75 days would you recommend a marriage date for these two people? Born 7/28/56 Chillicothe, Ohio and 8/17/80 Olongapo, Philippines. Any other advise would be appreciated too. Thank you again.

Tjuania in Desoto, Texas

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