Ted, Bernie, Donald and Hillary

Wow, this took me awhile to figure out. I went through and methodically looked at all the main aspects to the planets I consider most important to the job of President. Chiefly Pluto because it rules over the powerful and who is more powerful on the world stage than the president of the United States? Next was Mars because the job description is commander and chief. Then came Jupiter, we all need luck and timing to get the job and there is a unique relationship between Jupiter and politicians. And finally Ceres true ruler of Virgo, ruler of service because after all the president is the ultimate public servant – the servant of the people. So with all that in mind I had to come up with a sort of rating system. Basically all aspects were good except inconjunctions because they rule separation. They are common in transiting charts of people who pass over. This aspect once unnoticed has proved to enlighten us to many mysteries in a chart. I included squares as positive because they represent tremendous energy even if it is difficult energy – it is fuel and indicates manifesting. My methods are unconventional but they work for me. Astrology is an art and an oracle so we astrologers all approach charts differently.

I’m not going to lie, I was kind of terrified to look at this becaus on a cursory glance Hillary didn’t have a lot of Pluto aspects which worried me. I couldn’t imagine anyone else in the job but I didn’t want to start suffering from wishful thinking and delusion. Although I didn’t have a blog during the 2000 election I did tell friends and family members that the test between Bush and Gore would end up being split. That Gore would win the popular vote but Bush the presidency. I had to do research and see if this had ever happened. I knew it was possible but not probable. I was really upset leading up to that election. I knew if Bush won dark days were ahead. But as fate would have it I suppose we needed darkness – with summer there is always a winter.

On my way! Caveat before I really get going. The second financial crisis I warned about in 2008 is now looming. I feel like it will be on the next president’s watch. The next post I do will be about that. An important thing to think about before voting is who do you want managing this? And we are not finished dealing with the quagmire of the Middle East – think about that.

This race has been a strange one. Both parties have their polar opposites Cruz and Sanders and then through a reality TV star into the mix and it seems that the woman is the most center and conventional choice which is why pundits have been betting on her. But the American people have a strong proclivity for celebrities. In California (I was living there at the time) we threw out our democratically elected governor for the terminator (Arnold). That was weird and I actually knew people who voted to do that because they thought it would be funny and or they just liked his movies. So one can not underestimate the idiocy of the electorate i.e. Donald Trump.

So here goes: Ted Cruz will end up being the nominee. His chart has tremendous energy behind it on Election Day. There are indicates that if he were to win he would not be able to keep the presidency. I think his viability would be challenged not so much because of him but because it would open a pandora’s box of possibilities such as a foreign born person born in a hostile country to us like countries in the middle-East. Once a ruling is made allowing Cruz to be President despite being born on foreign soil what about someone not only born in a different country but also raised there? Maybe someone whose allegiance to a foreign interest is the reason for their political career? I’m not saying this is likely but it is the reason the framers insisted on Americans born on US soil which was extended to US territories (with an American parent) in the 1930s. So this is not a settled issue and it would be a problem for him if he won. He would loose in court.

Donald Trump has a lot of energy transiting his chart – on first glance more than anyone. But it isn’t the right sort of energy to win the presidency. It’s mostly to personal planets and most of his Pluto stuff is negative. He has a lot of Pluto inconjunctions. In this case I think it means he will have been separated from a lot of his money and potentially power. With all that energy and investment on Trump’s part + his nariccistic personality I think there is a 85% chance he’ll break his “oath” and run as an independent.

Bernie – I LOVE Bernie. And I really wish Hillary would keep it in her pants and be a lady with him. She’s making her run more difficult because of this. He defended her. She needs to back off because he’s right and honestly with the looming financial crisis I would trust him above all others to do the right things and put the country onto a prosperous and equalized track – a path we haven’t seen in many generations. He would be my personal pick. Unfortunately his aspects are not good in the Pluto department. The only way he could win is if the electorate redifined the role of president and put the focus on service to the people rather than on the power on the world stage. In that case he would have a real shot. He also has a lot of energy behind him and if Hillary is smart she’ll make nice with him and get him on board as a VP.

Ok, Hillary – it’s a squeaker. By no means is it going to be easy or seem for sure. Election night will be tense and the best thing that could happen to her is if Trump split the republicans. If that were to happen she would win bigger but it still would be a battle. I wish it were more clear cut but it’s tight all the way around. I think the reason Hillary has less support or enthusiastic support is partially because the energy in her chart is more anemic than one would expect for such a big job. She’s lucky that the other candidates have so many inconjunction. This translates to more excitememt even some delusion as this -to me at least – is a sort of neptunian aspect. For that matter squares are Saturnian, sextiles are Venusian and trines are Jupitarian.

So sorry to those who wish it to be different. I am just an oracle – a messenger. I control nothing. I only report what the heavens show.


Below are the secondary charts I ran to see who was most presidential.  It also reveals the type of President they would be.

Hillary would be powerful, structured, authoritarian and verbally aggressive but the use of military force would come only after diplomacy and exhausting all other options.

Bernie’s administration would be very service driven and pro-worker. He would be very focused on domestic policy.

Trump would be quick to use force and be aggressive in his dealings – quarrelsome and contentious.

Cruz would be duplicitous and untrustworthy. His motivations and actions self-serving. Think of the cronyism of Bush and the tactics of Nixon but with the sincerity of a used car salesman. South node bad!

I will post the transit charts separately as I meant to do this in this post but got the wrong set of charts loaded and took far too long to upload so…I am basing my assessment of the style of Prsidency mainly on the 10th house.


Ted, Bernie, Donald and Hillary

12 thoughts on “Ted, Bernie, Donald and Hillary

    1. Marie says:

      Barbara…. I really do not think so, but if he were to be the last President, does that mean were all going to die? The end of world perhaps?

          1. neilcrabtree says:

            Yes its an interesting prediction from Baba Vanga (died 1996) and she had an 80% success rate! She predicted that the 44th President would be of African origin and that he would be the last President.

            I’ve reflected on the situation and the only scenario I can come up with is that the Israel Iran antagonism gets out of hand and with Russia behind it, Iran ‘upsets’ Israel, and America’s wealthy Israel friends want Obama to do something about it, but he won’t so they get rid of him in some sort of coup that suspends the Presidential system.

            The other prediction Of Baba’s (that I heard somewhere?) in reference to this year, is that ‘the North will again separate from the South’. And perhaps with Obama’s Dad being Kenyan his removal will have this ramification.

            As the US Debt clock shows America is 19 trillion dollars in debt and this amounts to $158,836 per a taxpayer:
            Bernie Sanders wants to reign in the rich but the rich have other plans and before the system goes bust I think they will make their move, after all 62 of the wealthiest people in the world have as much wealth as half the world (according to the Oxfam report) – and 7 out of the top 10 are American.

            One of the difficult aspect in the US Sibly chart is its Mars in the 7th square Neptune in the 9th. Mars in mundane astrology equates to the war machine and Neptune’s influence is to create treacherous situations; while the 7th house relates to foreign affairs and war again. War is a big money earner for the American rich.

            Check out the Sun’s ingress into Aries in March! Ceres and Chiron are opposite the Sibly Neptune (on the nodal axis) forming a T square with the Sibly Mars – while coincidently, Obama has his Mars on the Sibly Neptune in its 9th house of Law, Religion and Philosophy. He knows what the ‘dogs of war’ get up to and he won’t help Israel.

  1. Marie says:

    based on my research and with all of the reading I do on politics, Bernie Sanders actually would win if he were to run against Trump. I’ll be honest Denise, the poll numbers are misleading, and it’s corporate media has Trump at 30% of the national voters.

    The truth… he has 30% of likely voters within the Republican party. if you do the math, Trump’s chances add up to about 10% on a National level. He really does not stand a chance. he’ll break rank with his party and go Independent and only if he has the nerve.

    I don’t think he will go that far however..

    A while back, you had suggested Rand Paul would be the leading Republican candidate. whatever happened to him?

    running against 16 other Republican candidates was absolutely ridiculous, as Donald Trump never gave anyone else a chance. The media, the pundits, and all of the journalists decide who gets attention, and what they write about.

    it’s all about sensationalism, and really looks like a bunch of High School kids competing for the Crown for their football team.

    There are plenty of folks out there that are posting on who will be the next POTUS. honestly, it’s kinda of strange, and lots of weird vibes out there.

    lots of angry people, and the angriest are the most confused, and are easily brainwashed.

    call them stupid or whatever.. it is what it is. this election may not be easily determined, but I would blame a lot of that on corporate media. that would include, ABC; NBC; CBS; CNN; FOX, and even BBC are all snorting up big money. even newspapers and periodicals are owned by neo conservatives and controlled by Corporations that want to control you.

    there is and never was any such thing as “Liberal Media”

    Ted Cruz is not even qualified to be POTUS.

    when you start going in different directions on who will be the Next POTUS, it’s kinda of confusing. you stated a few years ago, that it would be Hillary to be POTUS. Now you’re not sure, but that is only because you’re reading her or their astro charts.

    I had an experience a while back when I did psychic readings, and I used the tarot, crystals, and I worked with my Guides, and did a lot of dream work.

    I recall specifically I was using the cards to read for a client, but oddly, my senses was telling me to forget the cards, and listen to your gut and the guidance I was receiving was complete opposite from the cards.

    what did I do? I went with my inner voice, discarded the cards, and told her what my guides wanted me to say. I did, and the cards were wrong.

    what if, the charts you’re reading or how you’re reading is throwing you off a bit?

    Thanks for the info Denise, I always look forward to hearing from you..

    Blessed be, Marie

  2. Bernie was born 165 years after the signing of the ‘Declaration’ so his Neptune and Uranus are in a similar position. He has his Pluto over the Sibly North Node and Sibly’s North Node over his Neptune – FATE. Bernie’s Ceres is sextile the Sibly’s Moon/Pallas and his Moon/Mars is conjunct, (and Jupiter sextile), the Sibly’s Chiron.

    On election day (Nov 8th) Pluto is transiting trine Bernie’s Sun, while the Sun transits sextile and Saturn square his Sun – structures must change! Bernie has his natal Uranus conjunct his natal Saturn which tends towards changing structures and this pair are trine his Neptune which adds idealism – on election day transiting Mars will form a Grand Trine with these. As you say Ceres is important and on election day Ceres will be transiting Bernie’s Mars/Sun (sextile his Jupiter) while Venus transits his natal Ceres.

    Go Bernie!

    1. Marie says:

      Read this and understand that Uranus actually favors Hillary Clinton. This is by Jessica Adams who is an astrology expert. very interesting read, and covers Jeb Bush as well and why he won’t win. Bernie stands a small chance of winning. even though he surges in states like New Hampshire which is a gun toting animal murderer state. Iowa has never captured the winning candidate. even Bill Clinton did not win in Iowa, and Ronald Reagan too. both of these guys won in a landslide election.


  3. neilcrabtree says:

    If your talking about gut feeling then I would lean towards Hillary because she has the money to get media coverage. The Republicans don’t have a leader so it has to be a Democrat for President. The AlterNet and a number of other alternative news sites are behind Bernie but unless the economy goes down the gurgler before November I think most Americans would rather hold on to what they’ve got than go radical.

    But having said that – I don’t think the global economic system will make it to November!

    1. Thomas says:

      It’s amazing they manage to keep the money flowing, but who knows when it will all come crashing down.

      I had a premonition back in 2006 that Syria would get bombed, plus a vision of the Antichrist. The premonition and vision was about two weeks before the Israel/Lebanon war. After that the years 2015 and 2017 really stood out for me, and Syria was bombed in 2015.

      I did have a premonition/vision of the presiding President during the nuclear battle that destroys a few US cities (about six?). I saw a hansom man that was manufactured for the job (CIA?), and he’s someone very few Americans have any confidence in. I didn’t think it was G. W. Bush at all, but when Obama came along he looked the part. I don’t see anyone in this next election that matches what I saw, although Hillary’s husband Bill would probably be making the decisions if she wins, but the man I saw was much younger, like Obama.

      If it is Obama, the nuclear battle of WWIII would have to happen before January 20, 2017, or the elections would have to be suspended.

      I have another synch with the Americhrist (Trees For The Forest) book that I just found out about. It’s a location synch that’s coming up at the end of June, and into July.

  4. PK says:

    Denise, you had mentioned Rand Paul’s chart showing a lot of energy in November, 2016, assuming it pertained to his run for President. He is actually running for re-election to the Senate from Kentucky this November. Perhaps the high energy which you saw in his chart is actually in relation to his Senate campaign.

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